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TroyMars
Chief Marshal
T-Roy! and Friends
Joined: July 05, 2005
Posts: 267
|  Posted: 2005-12-29 09:57
a few days ago there was a heated debate in the lobby that involved some FS members including Nat a mod a FS member and one of the people on the CEC team DarkSoilder im trying not to bias with this whole thing. but every one know what kind of things the FS do an i know its only around 50% of them that do. Nat unleashed his mod skills onto dark to try and shut Dark up. i would like to know what you all think about this situation where mods are in a clan that um well no one likes....
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Katyusha
Cadet
Joined: December 24, 2005
Posts: 16
From: Manila, Philippines
| Posted: 2005-12-29 11:02
As far as the moderating job goes, as far as I know, staff members arnt allowed to use their authority for any reason other than to enforce rules, maintain behaviour, manage events and ensure fair play, etc., nothing more nothing less.
Moderators are chosen to be entrusted with authority because most of the time, they have proven to be good examples of behaviour or at least have shown to not be total jack-asses.
As such, what clan/fleet a mod belongs to should be of no concern. Who cares if you dont like the fleet. The fleet doesnt make the man, the man himself does. If the person himself is unable to hold said post, then he shouldnt have the post regardless of fleet. Conversely, if he's capable and doing good, why care what fleet he's in?
Just my 2 pence...
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Lux (Polaris)
Fleet Admiral
Raven Warriors
Joined: April 20, 2004
Posts: 835
From: Asgard
| Posted: 2005-12-29 12:45
I certainly agree with Katyusha. What fleet or clan a mod is in, regardless of its popularity, should be completely irrelevant. As Katyusha said, the fleet doesn't make the mod.
Also, you didn't even tell of the events that transpired, only said that, "Nat unleashed his mod powers to shut Dark up.", and then talked about how "We know the kind of things FS do" and how the fleet was intensely disliked.
At least say what happened before making a post to complain about Nat.
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Enterprise
Chief Marshal
Raven Warriors
Joined: May 19, 2002
Posts: 2576
From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2005-12-29 13:20
I remember that day.
Half the lobby was at war with each other. Continuously flaming each other on past crap. Bitching, whining, the works.
And then Nat, after warning everyone nearly 3 times, jumped in and told everyone to drop the subject.
My hero. *sniff*
But on a more serious note, I have no idea where you get the impression that Nat, in any way shape or form, took on bias in a situation that adressed everyone.
I have to personnally commend the sucker for shutting up the immature inconsiderate people that would not stop acting like they belonged in a padded room in straight jackets for fear their stupidity might spread. He did his job, he did it well within the lines of his duties, nothing more, nothing less.
-Ent
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Coeus {NCX-Charger}
Admiral, I can't read,
Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: February 16, 2004
Posts: 3635
From: South Philly
| Posted: 2005-12-29 21:37
I get more warnings from GTN mods than anyone else =P Except maybe Scotty, but he don't count...
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Lark of Serenity
Grand Admiral
Raven Warriors
Joined: June 02, 2002
Posts: 2516
| Posted: 2005-12-29 21:51
coe, thats because the other people warning you arent mods.
in any case, ive found most of the main FS crew to be fairly respectable individuals, theres a few bad apples (much less than 50%) that give the clan a bad name, and a failing of the clans leadership to expunge these individuals is whats led to an overall view of the clan as nasty. I cant really blame them tho, its too few leaders for too large a clan. my personal opinion is that either FS should cut some members to promote some of its better ones to better control the fleets population, and i could name a few people in the fleet who would be capable administrators.
meh, theyre not quite as bad as ppl think, just some extremely rough edges.
[ This Message was edited by: Lark of Serenity on 2005-12-29 22:33 ]
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Leviatan
Cadet
Joined: April 22, 2005
Posts: 186
| Posted: 2005-12-30 00:57
Before anyone "figures" out stuff.. I didnt tell Troy to post anything.. I didnt even know he did before he told me to go look at the forums.. So keep me out from the picture, I dont have anything personal against Nat..
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Crim
Fleet Admiral
Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: March 16, 2003
Posts: 1336
| Posted: 2005-12-30 01:12
Mods can be in fleets, it's all fine and dandi..Stop being babies and blaming things on 'biased' and all, Nat was controlling things, and eh. Shuttap
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Zeritu
Grand Admiral
Pitch Black
Joined: December 02, 2002
Posts: 264
| Posted: 2005-12-30 02:32
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On 2005-12-29 13:20, Enterprise wrote:
I remember that day.
Half the lobby was at war with each other. Continuously flaming each other on past crap. Bitching, whining, the works.
And then Nat, after warning everyone nearly 3 times, jumped in and told everyone to drop the subject.
My hero. *sniff*
But on a more serious note, I have no idea where you get the impression that Nat, in any way shape or form, took on bias in a situation that adressed everyone.
I have to personnally commend the sucker for shutting up the immature inconsiderate people that would not stop acting like they belonged in a padded room in straight jackets for fear their stupidity might spread. He did his job, he did it well within the lines of his duties, nothing more, nothing less.
-Ent
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Ent when did you get let out of your padded room?
J?K There Ent 
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Nax
Marshal
Joined: May 12, 2005
Posts: 768
| Posted: 2005-12-30 05:37
Thank you for the clarification, Enterprise.
Complaints when directed at Staff actions should be placed in the Staff Feedback forum.
Generally, the staff always attempts to avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest. For example, if a topic like this one is about a staff member, that particular staff member avoids any posts on the thread waiting for other staff to comment or preferably a member of the admin team.
Being a little more specific to this situation, theguiding principle is, if an argument involves a specific group (FS) for staff that just happen to be in that fleet to try to avoid "handling" the situation unless they're it - there is nobody else to do so and it's a situation that requires immediate leadership.
Nax
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Ants
Chief Marshal
Joined: February 11, 2005
Posts: 315
From: Canada
| Posted: 2005-12-30 14:01
Wow Nat is FS... cool cool
As both ENT and NAX has responded as NAT is a MOD and no matter what Fleet he/she is in like all other Fleeted MODs they perfourm there dutys as Staff Mods... Iv had so many ppl say the same about many other Fleeted mods as i have worked with most of them and i myself will say they all play as a fleet and the work as a MOD... Iv had issues where one has told me never to talk to him unless it was a game issue and on that behalf as a MOD he treated me with respect eventho our disagreements... and i can say the same with the many other MODs iv had dealings with!
My Respect to all Darkspace Staff Mods and Admins... keep up the great work... and to the rest of the community see ya on the deep cold vacuume of space 
Also what stuff dose FS do? Id shurlly like to know
Fatal Ants
[ This Message was edited by: Fatal Ants *XO 1*(Strike Pending) on 2005-12-30 14:07 ]
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Lord DowneyBUM (UK)
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Joined: January 13, 2003
Posts: 437
From: London England
| Posted: 2005-12-30 14:04
What stuff does FS do!!!!!
Your iccies, nough said
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Ants
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Joined: February 11, 2005
Posts: 315
From: Canada
| Posted: 2005-12-30 16:18
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On 2005-12-30 14:04, Lord DowneyBUM (UK) wrote:
What stuff does FS do!!!!!
Your iccies, nough said
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Hummm no...
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Sixkiller
Marshal
Courageous Elite Commandos
Joined: May 11, 2005
Posts: 1786
From: Netherlands
| Posted: 2005-12-31 03:56
what? you guys went kluth?
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Fatal Impulse
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Joined: November 09, 2005
Posts: 1
| Posted: 2005-12-31 09:00
Just wanted to say I'm in Fatal Squadron and I, um, like it. So I guess I'm nobody to you Troy =.( First I'd like to agree with everyone who said the clan does not make the man and vice versa... That much should be apparent- mostly I just wanted to take this opportunity to apologize for being insulting towards other players right after they pwn me (ahem, *Nim*) in the past. Next I'd like to apologize for using Escort Dessies. You experienced players have to understand a couple things- DS noobs don't know anything about previous versions of the game or much about how the ships are balanced when they are just starting to rack up prestige so instead of getting so angry over ED use to noobs; letting them know it annoys you so they keep using it because it annoys them to be dictored 4 vs. 1 and keep getting pwnd then told they're an inferior gamer 'cuz they didn't defend mycopia cluster by themselves... ::wink, wink, nudge nudge:: Blah blah blah, my point is basically be civil and politely explain that the game is not 'complete' and it's an unfair ship that was not meant to carry 12 particle cannons (description says "picket ship for anti-fighter, anti-missile support...) and 3 aux generators (lvl 6 gens *i think* and crsrs only get lvl 4!)-- also, even though I am soo00o noobert at DS I hope you all hear me out when I say most of the EDs I see are independents following FS around from system to system... and that's about it... btw Ants: thx for having me in FS, sorry if I ever embarassed your clan with my behavior and I'll do my best in the future.
-teh l337estest n00b: Fatal Impulse! ,,/ [ '-']
[FS]Fatal Impulse lags his missile crsr into a def 4 planet trying to drop inf...
again.
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