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Borgie Chief Marshal Pitch Black
Joined: August 15, 2005 Posts: 2256 From: close by
| Posted: 2010-11-30 17:29  
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On 2010-11-29 16:27, Riley! wrote:
star trek armada had them. they sucked in and destroyed derelict ships, not something you wanted to be around if your engines go offline in a fight.
I think the point of a blackhole in DS would be the same as anything else -- more game content. which I think DS needs a lot more of to wake people up.
too bad resources are limited.
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ooh yeah i remember that, a few steamrunners could destroy several ships using there engine overloads near a blackhole
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MrSparkle Marshal
Joined: August 13, 2001 Posts: 1912 From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2010-11-30 17:37  
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On 2010-11-30 03:49, FA Lord Raiden *Super Sup* wrote:
didn't the scientists create a micro black hole in the Large hadron collider for a split micro second?
i know there was mega safety concerns about it, if the scientists screwed up the maths it would of been the end of the earth and the solar system.. >_>
however we are still all here.. or are we?
hence why the LHC was nicknamed the black hole factory shorty afterwards.
because black holes now keep popping up when they are using the LHC..
so Black holes do exist and have been proved since at least 2006..
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I read that there's two different kinds of black holes: those formed by a gravitational collapse (like a star) and eternal black holes which are the (so far) theoretical black holes connected to white holes. If they're rotating you emerge through a white hole in another dimension. They are only theorized because of equations.
I only think the former have ever been observed.
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MrSparkle Marshal
Joined: August 13, 2001 Posts: 1912 From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2010-11-30 17:38  
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On 2010-11-30 17:37, MrSparkle wrote:
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On 2010-11-30 03:49, FA Lord Raiden *Super Sup* wrote:
didn't the scientists create a micro black hole in the Large hadron collider for a split micro second?
i know there was mega safety concerns about it, if the scientists screwed up the maths it would of been the end of the earth and the solar system.. >_>
however we are still all here.. or are we?
hence why the LHC was nicknamed the black hole factory shorty afterwards.
because black holes now keep popping up when they are using the LHC..
so Black holes do exist and have been proved since at least 2006..
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I read that there's two different kinds of black holes: those formed by a gravitational collapse (like a star) and eternal black holes which are the (so far) theoretical black holes connected to white holes. If they're rotating you emerge through a white hole in another dimension. They are only theorized because of equations.
I only think the former have ever been observed.
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It could be interesting ingame, but then again our jumpgates and wormholes are already the same thing, just without the "black hole, white hole" graphics.
[ This Message was edited by: MrSparkle on 2010-12-01 11:49 ]
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Lark of Serenity Grand Admiral Raven Warriors
Joined: June 02, 2002 Posts: 2516
| Posted: 2010-12-01 01:46  
blackholes are invisible, except for when theyre destroying a star.
if there were a star-destroying blackhole in game, you wouldnt want to visit it anyways.
discussion end.
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jamesbob Grand Admiral
Joined: August 22, 2009 Posts: 410
| Posted: 2010-12-01 03:16  
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On 2010-12-01 01:46, Lark (Retired) wrote:
blackholes are invisible, except for when theyre destroying a star.
if there were a star-destroying blackhole in game, you wouldnt want to visit it anyways.
discussion end.
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not to mention it would damage darkspaces player base even more.
but everyone still seems to post content that will do that and that only.
WHY IS THAT?
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Painfulangel Grand Admiral
Joined: December 26, 2009 Posts: 188 From: Exathra
| Posted: 2010-12-01 04:02  
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On 2010-11-29 06:03, Azreal wrote:
black holes are still theoretical.......
however, what good would one do in ds? what would its purpose be? Is it just for visual effects? How visual is a black void? It couldn't have any effect on game play.
And I can see the reports to the mods now:
/report yeah, been flying for a whole day to get to that black hole in Luyten, I'm outa gas and it isnt getting any closer...wtf yo?
not sure why they would bother, tbh.
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| Well black holes can be used ot get to another system example; luyten to tau ceti
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Painfulangel Grand Admiral
Joined: December 26, 2009 Posts: 188 From: Exathra
| Posted: 2010-12-01 04:02  
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On 2010-11-29 06:03, Azreal wrote:
black holes are still theoretical.......
however, what good would one do in ds? what would its purpose be? Is it just for visual effects? How visual is a black void? It couldn't have any effect on game play.
And I can see the reports to the mods now:
/report yeah, been flying for a whole day to get to that black hole in Luyten, I'm outa gas and it isnt getting any closer...wtf yo?
not sure why they would bother, tbh.
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| Well black holes can be used ot get to another system example; luyten to tau ceti
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*Dark Flux* (Orange) Marshal
Joined: February 28, 2009 Posts: 18
| Posted: 2010-12-01 09:41  
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On 2010-12-01 04:02, Painfulangel wrote:
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On 2010-11-29 06:03, Azreal wrote:
black holes are still theoretical.......
however, what good would one do in ds? what would its purpose be? Is it just for visual effects? How visual is a black void? It couldn't have any effect on game play.
And I can see the reports to the mods now:
/report yeah, been flying for a whole day to get to that black hole in Luyten, I'm outa gas and it isnt getting any closer...wtf yo?
not sure why they would bother, tbh.
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| Well black holes can be used ot get to another system example; luyten to tau ceti
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we got gates.
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NoBoDx Grand Admiral
Joined: October 14, 2003 Posts: 784 From: Germany / NRW
| Posted: 2010-12-01 10:20  
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On 2010-12-01 04:02, Painfulangel wrote:
Well black holes can be used ot get to another system example; luyten to tau ceti
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we already have this, its called wormhole generator avaible at your local station or human command dreads
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*Dark Flux* (Orange) Marshal
Joined: February 28, 2009 Posts: 18
| Posted: 2010-12-04 10:41  
You havnt answerd my question guys. WHY do we NOT have black holes.. u guys are posting about what they are and what they DO...
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Kenny_Naboo Marshal Pitch Black
Joined: January 11, 2010 Posts: 3823 From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-12-04 11:09  
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On 2010-12-04 10:41, *Dark Flux* (Orange) wrote:
You havnt answerd my question guys. WHY do we NOT have black holes.. u guys are posting about what they are and what they DO...
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Because they don't add anything useful to the game other than being another off-limits area.
[ This Message was edited by: Kenny_Naboo[+R] on 2010-12-04 11:10 ]
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Sopwith Camel Grand Admiral Galactic Navy
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 651 From: Toronto
| Posted: 2010-12-04 13:54  
It will take you a very, very long time to get sucked into a blackhole. Not fun.
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Admiral Uhan 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: May 17, 2010 Posts: 21 From: Right behind you!
| Posted: 2010-12-04 17:56  
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On 2010-11-29 06:03, Azreal wrote:
black holes are still theoretical.......
however, what good would one do in ds? what would its purpose be? Is it just for visual effects? How visual is a black void? It couldn't have any effect on game play.
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Well you can create a swirl of gas and dust cant you.
So simply create a swirl of cosmic matter put a large black void in the middle
and a beam of gamma rays and you got a visual blackhole
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MarineKingPrime Marshal Exathra Alliance Fleet
Joined: October 04, 2010 Posts: 239 From: CSS CheezyBagels
| Posted: 2010-12-04 20:11  
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On 2010-12-04 10:41, *Dark Flux* (Orange) wrote:
You havnt answerd my question guys. WHY do we NOT have black holes.. u guys are posting about what they are and what they DO...
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Because blackholes are a dumb idea?
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Xydes Grand Admiral
Joined: August 07, 2009 Posts: 276 From: England
| Posted: 2010-12-05 10:25  
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On 2010-11-29 14:58, Sops wrote:
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On 2010-11-29 10:24, MrSparkle wrote:
Black holes I think are accepted as fact now. It's white holes that are theoretical now. |
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They are accepted because they make the math work, that doesn't make them fact.
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Black holes are accepted now because there is one in the middle of our Galaxy. The only reason why Black holes are rare is because there is ZILLIONS AND ZILLIONS AND ZILLIONS of light years between stars... and black holes are probably 60x that amount away from our humble little abode we call earth. Back to the topic at hand, why don't we hve black holes?
Answer: If we had black holes... The Metaverse wouldn't be around for very long.
Another answer to this question is: Black Holes would be hard to find seeing as you would have to look at the light being distorted by a black hole... So you could be tootling along to Mars and your ship just goes POP just gets twisted and distorted and you will be like WTF??? [s]Valkaryie Synperco has been destroyed by a Black Hole![/s]
I don't think you want to be randomly destroyed now do you?
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