Tael
2nd Rear Admiral
Palestar
Joined: July 03, 2002
Posts: 3695
From: San Francisco Bay Area
|  Posted: 2003-07-16 11:59
* EVENT: 'NA Staff Meeting' event is starting now...
* Joining 'NA Public Staff Meeting'...
* [Admin]Tael slaps [Admin]Trag in the head...
02:03:44 [Evil]DarkAngel {C?}: "show your self trag"
02:03:39 [Admin]Tael: "Ok Trag is closing something up so one sec before he appears and graces us"
02:04:15 [Evil]DarkAngel {C?}: "thank you"
02:04:22 [Evil]DarkAngel {C?}: "ive wanted top do that for a while now"
02:11:40 Josef: "You like that one juxt?"
* [Dev]Selvarian {IMC} hears a strange sound coming from [Evil]DarkAngel {C?}`s backside, and then proceeds to ask the obvious question
02:12:06 [S.W]Juxtapose: "the only one I got with a link...I'm too lazy to make my own"
02:05:24 [Evil]DarkAngel {C?}: "thanks selv"
02:05:50 [Evil]DarkAngel {C?}: "that was actually kinda funny"
02:13:00 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Well, it is because we are losing staff as well as players."
02:06:10 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: ":S"
02:05:41 [Admin]Tael: "afk phone for work"
02:13:14 [TK]Jim Starluck: "Well, I just got back from work training..."
02:13:53 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Glad you like it."
* [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier has entered the room...
02:14:05 [S.W]Juxtapose: "Good fight in Indy, you fascist, imperialist Uggies"
02:14:10 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "It was shamelessly ripped off from http://www.killfrog.com"
02:14:17 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: ";)"
02:07:20 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: ":P wish i coulda been there for more of it  "
02:14:18 [Admin]Trag: "I see some people are still joining. I'm going to wait a bit."
02:14:21 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "thx Selv"
02:14:42 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "it would of been more fun if you would of died once jux"
02:07:55 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "no one killed juxt? SHAME!"
* [-GTN-]Lith Ragond proceeds to kill Juxtapose
02:15:07 [S.W]Juxtapose: "I try not to...bad for my self-esteem"
* [S.W]Juxtapose dies..
02:15:14 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "well, it was mostly 4 UGTO against 5 ICC and like 3 Kluth"
02:08:30 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "oh, fun lil mix"
02:15:31 [S.W]Juxtapose: "quite a turn out on all sides"
02:15:34 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "hi trag"
02:08:42 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "that was fun chasing the Kluth in ECA"
02:15:56 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "Kluth was ally with ICC tho  "
02:09:00 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "especially when i was at 0% hull with kluth 700gu away and planet defenses shooting at me"
02:16:04 [S.W]Juxtapose: "bah...only 1 or 2"
02:16:22 [S.W]Juxtapose: "Spectre was allied too, but they were all wiped out in one swoop"
02:16:32 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "i was trying to Mine u soooo hard, but i was lagged"
02:16:55 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "How do you mine someone "so hard"?"
02:17:09 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "i was trying hard"
02:17:10 [S.W]Juxtapose: "good question"
02:10:14 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "well, u mine them, but harder than normal"
02:17:23 [S.W]Juxtapose: "with gusto"
02:10:26 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "like, hit the M key REALLY hard"
02:17:43 [S.W]Juxtapose: "I saw him snap his keyboard clear in half"
02:10:58 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "LOL... that would be funny"
02:18:01 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "that was demorian"
02:18:09 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Oh, OK. So the mine deployer just releases the mine a couple milliseconds faster, then?"
02:11:24 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "lol"
02:18:30 Josef: "No wonder he had QWERTY written backwards on his forehead when he turned his webcam on"
02:18:34 [S.W]Juxtapose: "Luckily we had a Lag-Field Cruiser on hand"
02:18:49 [S.W]Juxtapose: "lol"
* HMCS-Ottawa glares at Juxtapose
02:19:15 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "yeah selv, exactly"
* [S.W]Juxtapose whistles tunelessly before using Josef as a human shield...
02:20:13 [{BSS}]$milingJ35tE|2[.:21st:.]*LT*: "ok so look at me like im a n00b but i was actually waiting for this meeting um any word on when the past is comming out and when they need the high number of players for beta? that was my only question"
* Room is now moderated...
* [Admin]Trag set the room to moderated...
02:20:42 [Admin]Trag: "Ok, let's get going."
02:20:56 [MUTED] [{BSS}]$milingJ35tE|2[.:21st:.]*LT*: "wicked it didn't even start yet"
02:21:01 [MUTED] [{BSS}]$milingJ35tE|2[.:21st:.]*LT*: "i thought i was late"
02:21:08 [Admin]Trag: "1.481 update. As of the 11th, F says he's 95% done with the interface changes."
02:21:32 [Admin]Trag: "And he's got a few more things on the list before final testing of 1.481 as well."
02:14:04 [Admin]Tael: "ok sorry back..."
02:21:47 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Mostly UI changes"
02:14:52 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "what would be these 'few more things'?"
02:14:56 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "UI?"
02:21:58 [Admin]Trag: "Which include the mission system, and a memory usage."
02:22:01 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "..like he posted about in the Dev Feedback forum"
02:22:08 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "User Interface"
02:15:16 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "oh yeah"
02:22:20 [Admin]Trag: "Right, like the trade route interface."
02:15:24 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "memory usage trag?"
02:22:38 [Admin]Trag: "Correct lith."
02:23:11 [Admin]Trag: "Also a formation addition as well, which should be quick."
02:23:57 [Admin]Trag: "So as usual we are waiting for F to finish this up so we can all give it a good stress test."
02:17:03 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "ok, when u say memory usage, you mean... ?"
02:24:20 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Using too much memory and trying to reduce uit."
02:24:21 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "*it"
02:24:25 [Admin]Trag: "@lith, Simply the amount of memory being used on the servers."
02:17:40 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "ah, this is good"
02:25:21 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "* [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier whispered "that would reduce Lag? the memory thing" "
02:25:28 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Yeah, that, and crashes"
02:25:42 NightDragon: "away"
02:25:45 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "..and allow more players per server"
02:21:17 [Admin]Tael: "Real quick... an issue regarding FF and alliances..."
02:21:48 [Admin]Tael: "This is a game, and we are here to play... Until diplomacy is put in, you are not suppose to fire on your own faction..."
02:21:57 [Admin]Tael: "says so in the RoC... "
02:22:33 [Admin]Tael: "now some players go and make alliances with another faction... well thats fine and dandy, but you can not force others to abide by it if they choose not to since the concept of the game is a 3 way struggle..."
02:23:24 [Admin]Tael: "You can opt not to defend them from the other teams retribution, but firing on them or giving away information about where tehy are to the enemy is against the roc..."
02:24:40 [Admin]Tael: "This is the last time I'll be nice about this... I dont want to hear about purposeful FF again, especially because someone didnt want to align with the enemy"
02:25:05 [Admin]Tael: "FFing someone because they do not want to play the same way you are is not only against the RoC, but down right childish"
02:25:35 [Admin]Tael: "I'd prefer not to hear about something like this again... Its a game, just play and have fun"
02:33:29 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "We're actually being fairly flexible allowing alliances at all."
02:33:59 [-GTN-]Demorian: "For the record, I hate my connection."
02:34:01 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Carry on."
* [Dev]Selvarian {IMC} hates Dems connection, too.
02:35:05 [-GTN-]Demorian: "quiet in here"
02:27:48 [Admin]Tael: "As selv said we are being very flexible... and the new political proposals allow for inter faction wars, until then its against the RoC..."
02:28:36 [Admin]Tael: "If it keeps up we may be forced to start adjusting stats, such as lowering kills and taking resources loss and adding ten times the worth of the ship you FF"
02:29:25 [Admin]Tael: "And we all hate stat adjustments... so hopefully this is the last we will have to chat about it..."
02:31:49 [Admin]Tael: "As for the Enemy gate use..."
02:32:10 [Admin]Tael: "That is something that will need all of the admins to discuss, so will be tabled for the admin meeting on the weekend..."
02:32:37 [Admin]Tael: "Its something that affects larger policy so out of respect for the other members of the Administration, we need to hear their input first."
* You set the room to unmoderated...
* Room is no longer moderated...
02:33:24 [Admin]Tael: "Ok the floor is open for player issues"
02:41:10 [S.W]Juxtapose: "I got a hang-nail"
02:41:31 [¤SYN¤]squawk: "can you elaborate on the interfaction wars?"
02:41:34 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Here, let me fix that for you."
02:41:38 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "Hmm"
02:41:44 [-GTN-]Null: "OMG I've only played my happy meal toy like five times and it's all ready running out of batteries"
02:41:49 [=SSC=]TheVirtu: "I can smell burning metal coming from my mini fan"
02:41:58 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "well...what if when ships get holes in them we have little people fly out of them to make it a lil more realistic"
* [Dev]Selvarian {IMC} grabs Jux`s hand and rips the hanging nail completely off before Jux realizes what is happening.
02:34:43 [Admin]Tael: "Well I did a work up to change the game somewhat to add politics, then Factions will be a loose guidelines, sort of like old scottish clans..."
02:42:18 [S.W]Juxtapose: "Thanks!"
02:42:22 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "then when a ship explodes or self-destructs an escape pod can be seen ejecting away from it"
* [=SSC=]TheVirtu points out that Selv also ripped out his fingernail
02:35:13 [Admin]Tael: "they have a common out look, but can fight with each other... though in times of need can beforced to work together under a common banner"
02:43:11 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "i think that would be an awesome addition graphics-wise"
02:43:26 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "The version I was contemplating was a lot like Dune houses."
02:43:28 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "a UGTO clan would be able to ally with a Kluth clan, and use eachothers planets?"
02:36:00 [Admin]Tael: "this will allow fleets like PB and EVIL to declare war on each other and fight in the MV... but should the head of the Kluth faction decide that he nees all teams together for an assualt, he can call an end to the interfaction war"
02:43:46 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "or ICC clan ally with UGTO clan and be able to use eachothers planets?"
02:43:48 Josef: "Whats the best way to get raspberry jelly out of cashmere?"
02:37:00 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "who will be chosen as head of the factions?"
02:44:04 [S.W]Juxtapose: "bleach"
02:44:12 [S.W]Juxtapose: "mixed with ammonia"
02:44:16 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "Demorian"
02:44:22 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "of course, hands down"
02:44:30 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "but hey did anyone even read what i said =/"
02:44:45 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "a UGTO clan would be able to ally with a Kluth clan, and use eachothers planets?"
02:44:52 [S.W]Juxtapose: "about the escape pod?"
02:37:35 [Admin]Tael: "The one limit I want placed is that you can not align cross race..."
02:45:09 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "yeah juxt and people flying out of holes created by damage in a ship"
02:45:25 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "no actual use in the game but it would be a cool graphics addition"
02:38:02 [Admin]Tael: "so an ICC and UTGO might be able to agree to a trade pact, but not share planets and fight together"
02:45:43 [VI]Spawn Xe: "lol thats just twisted"
02:45:47 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Basically, the game political AI would decide, based on which fleet was most popular to the people of the planets (ie, popular support of the planetary governors), and basically can defend them from the "enemies"."
02:45:53 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "that would be ok to"
02:39:30 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "that would be sweet selv"
02:46:44 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Boils down to the strongest fleet in that faction, both in terms of firepower and political influence."
02:47:00 [S.W]Juxtapose: "my daddy is a judge, does that count?"
02:39:32 [Admin]Tael: "Correct, we have also discussed maybe a player ran government that would initially be ran by the admins... but thats still in debate on just how much micro management is to much"
02:47:04 [¤SYN¤]Armand: "can we have narcotics put back in as a trade good to help keep the planets happy"
02:47:06 [¤SYN¤]Armand: "?"
02:47:20 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "that would cause war within the faction Selv"
02:47:23 [¤SYN¤]squawk: "Sort of like WWIIOL?"
02:47:35 [¤SYN¤]squawk: "like the Allied high command and the German high command only to fit this game?"
02:47:46 [-GTN-]Monty™ {C?}: "so factions will fight for leadership, i like it"
02:47:57 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Most of this stuff is still in flux, since we are in kind of a holding pattern, waiting on Faustus' OK to continue in the direction we are wanting to go."
02:48:01 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "fleets* monty"
02:48:26 [PB - Uggy]g0ds s0ldier: "if it does go like that, it will be hecktic"
02:48:28 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Yes, but not necessarily always with guns. They have to win the hearts and minds of the peoples on the planets they conquer."
02:48:49 [¤SYN¤]Armand: "well if we are waiting on F to ok something the way we want to go we are never going to get it"
02:41:29 [Admin]Tael: "A lot of the projects I was working on have been placed on hold until after the patch... F needs to complete this before we pile more on him"
02:49:24 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "what about ppl flying out of damaged ships and escape pods when they blow up?"
02:49:42 [-GTN-]Monty™ {C?}: "would the "leader fleet" be able to vote in a leader of the faction as a while?"
02:49:51 [-GTN-]Monty™ {C?}: "*whole"
02:42:32 [Admin]Tael: "actually F liked that idea when we chatted... but decided that it would be boring for a player to sit there for 30 minutes waiting to be picked up. hehe"
02:50:46 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "well not necesarrily the escape pod becomes you"
02:43:19 [Admin]Tael: "Before the player government can go in, fleets have to be rearanged... though the reconstruction of fleets would allow you to have all on one level if you like, or create wings and assign subleaders"
02:50:52 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "im just saying as a graphical add on"
02:50:56 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Basically, we will add something like a stat called "Political Influence" to each player and fleet. Those that earn enough influence can overtake governmental control for individual planets, and once they earn enough, can take over the faction. They can declare other fleets rogue from the faction, if they want, and can set the posture of the faction towards any one person or fleet."
02:51:11 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "to enhance the feeling of your ship being damaged and what happens wehn your ship gets blown up"
02:51:25 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "ok, so scratch the pod but ppl need to fly out of the holes in damaged ships!"
02:44:28 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "OMG SELV"
02:44:30 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "i cant wait"
02:51:31 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Better make it reeeeeeeeeeeeally hard to get"
02:51:45 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "sweeet selv!"
02:44:15 [Admin]Tael: "a new unit is going to be added, a Diplomat... they swoon the population and quell revolts"
02:44:51 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "MWUAH HA HA HA!"
* [-GTN-]Depthcharge imagines assasinating Lith the dictator of the UGTO
02:52:11 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "LIth the dipliomat"
* [=SSC=]TheVirtu can imagine killing Lith and taking over the UGTO himself and being a warmonger
02:52:16 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "But, like I said, these are just raw thoughts. None of this is for sure until after we get some official word on it."
* [VI]Spawn Xe imagines himself a a UTGO outcast.. much like a Darkspace version of Golem.. yay
02:52:25 Josef: "What happens when we get 200+ Political FAs?"
02:44:56 [Admin]Tael: "that also means PB could send diplomats to an EVIL planet so that if it revolts from lack of attention, it might favor PB"
02:52:31 [VI]Spawn Xe: "*UGTO"
* [{BSS}]$milingJ35tE|2[.:21st:.]*LT* imagines lith being assasinated by depth
02:52:49 [-GTN-]Demorian: "wow."
02:53:06 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Depends on what those 200+ political FAs do. Chances are they will use their influence to fight one another and give everyone else something to do."
02:45:49 [Admin]Tael: "Actually we talked about that too... to do political actions you would have to spend points you earn...and could use them to get more ships or resources...."
02:46:08 [Admin]Tael: "since its such a large concept, its just a concept till F says to go forward with it"
02:53:43 [VI]Spawn Xe: "so the new mv will be quite diverse and not all about fighting?.. i think that attacking a planet without any or little player defene should be impossible..."
02:53:57 [VI]Spawn Xe: "instead only make it possible to cap an undefended planet through espeionage"
02:46:29 [Admin]Tael: "The idea is to create more things in the MV to do besides just fight, yes"
02:54:01 [VI]Spawn Xe: ";)"
02:54:07 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "will new maps be added in this patch/"
02:54:09 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Yeah, we think that the pace of the MV will be a little slower."
02:54:09 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "i forgot."
02:54:16 [¤SYN¤]DeathChat: "is this going to complicate the game too much for new users...trying to learn to play in MV?"
02:54:29 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "No, new maps will be added after the current patch, but before the next one."
02:47:04 [Admin]Tael: "Also trade will be redone as well to actually be necessary and worth while"
02:54:42 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "Oh, ok"
02:54:43 [¤SYN¤]Armand: "that's the way it sounds to me"
02:54:52 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "No, not really. Most people will just jump in and fight; we're not going to take that away."
02:55:01 [-[A]-]|2eason: "The New maps will be added after they get converted over"
02:55:06 [¤SYN¤]DeathChat: "as it stands its hard to get ppl into the MV now."
02:47:50 [Admin]Tael: "the biggest change to the mv will be whats coming with the next patch, hence the long delay... after that each item will be a small change here, a tweak there..."
02:55:29 [¤SYN¤]squawk: "I like the idea but eh it will have to be closely watched otherwise some lil 10 yo demon will get in a position to make a faction way to weak"
02:55:30 [VI]Spawn Xe: "i rarely go there myself.. n whenever i do tis no fun coz its like 20 vs me n 2 others"
02:55:31 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "Those who just want to go and shoot will have just as much to do as those that sit back and play DS chess between each other."
02:48:42 [Admin]Tael: "ok, anything else before we adjourn?"
02:56:24 [Dev]Selvarian {IMC}: "We're adding dimension to the game, not substituting or taking away"
02:56:28 [¤SYN¤]squawk: "so is the FA server going away?"
02:56:29 [VI]Spawn Xe: "yes..."
02:56:30 [VI]Spawn Xe: "eat spam!"
02:56:53 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "yes"
02:56:57 [¤SYN¤]DeathChat: "I just want to see more people in MV"
02:56:58 [VI]Spawn Xe: "good work guys, keep it up.. you rox all devs"
02:56:59 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "ppl flying out of damaged ships"
02:57:04 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "lol, ok, now you can leave =)"
02:57:11 [-GTN-]Depthcharge: "yeah, and great job"
02:49:45 [Admin]Tael: "ok meeting closed"
02:57:18 [VI]Spawn Xe: ":)"
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