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Tiggy
Midshipman
Terra Squadron
Joined: May 30, 2003
Posts: 282
From: Western Australia
|  Posted: 2003-11-16 01:08
Just a quick question. There are a LOT of things that I don't like in this game, balance things, realism things, etc. I could list them all, but I just wanted to mention each aspect when I felt it was necessary.
Just a quick suggestion/question. Why aren't ship designs more defined? I mean, the AD, it's just a bigger version of the AC. Seems the only ships we have are combat combat combat MINELAYER combat combat DICTOR combat SUPPLY. You get the picture. Why do we not follow the real naval doctrine and field ships with real strategic value? Ie, a decent gunship, maybe a dreadnaught class, fielding 10 or more weapon slots, very few lasers (Maybe 4 normals) And very few heavy weapons (2 heavies or something). Some of you may say it's unbalanced. But think about this, the BD is similar to this, and it couldve been a gunship, but then all these irrelevent weapons and fighters were added.
I'd suggest ships such as...
Better Carriers
More powerful and useful Gunships
Better Missile Boats
Defense Vessels (PD)
More defined Minelayers
Better and more organised than ships that have similar names and weapons, I'd say. No two ships should be compared to each other.
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Antdizzle
Joined: February 07, 2003
Posts: 860
| Posted: 2003-11-16 01:21
hmmmmmmmmmmmm its unbalanced!
[edit] but i think that most are good (just your dread thingy)
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Tiggy
Midshipman
Terra Squadron
Joined: May 30, 2003
Posts: 282
From: Western Australia
| Posted: 2003-11-16 01:41
Hey, 1 more weapon slot. No heavy beams. 1 More light beam. No fighters. How can It be unbalanced?!
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Akuma
Fleet Admiral
Joined: January 04, 2003
Posts: 52
| Posted: 2003-11-16 02:12
i agree and disagree. Yes the ships should be more defined in weapons and in Ship design too. The AD/EAD is basically and upgraded version of the AC/TC. But i dont think by taking away/adding weapons will improve that. IDK what im getting at but yeah you have a good point.
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DOM700 [-IMO-]
Fleet Admiral
Joined: July 26, 2001
Posts: 3175
From: Eckental, Germany, Sol-System
| Posted: 2003-11-16 02:35
Why shouldn't ICC invent a larger version of their most successful ship (AC -> AD), makes sense to me
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Tbone
Grand Admiral
Joined: July 21, 2001
Posts: 1756
From: Vancouver
| Posted: 2003-11-16 02:43
Nm, I need to learn how to read.
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Kamikaze Chicken
Cadet
Joined: August 30, 2001
Posts: 553
| Posted: 2003-11-16 05:00
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On 2003-11-16 01:08, Tiggy wrote:
Just a quick question. There are a LOT of things that I don't like in this game, balance things, realism things, etc. I could list them all, but I just wanted to mention each aspect when I felt it was necessary.
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Pity the game isnt built to make you and only you happy huh? 
In 1.482 EVERY ship in the game is having its loadout changed so this topic is somewhat mute...
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Axianda The Royal
Fleet Admiral
Terra Squadron
Joined: November 20, 2001
Posts: 4273
From: Axianda
| Posted: 2003-11-16 06:11
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1. I'd suggest ships such as...
2. Better Carriers
3. More powerful and useful Gunships
4. Better Missile Boats
5. Defense Vessels (PD)
6. More defined Minelayers
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1. 1482
2. 1482
3. hrmmm did i mention 1482?
4. WOW 1482 again
5. I remember something about escort destroyers from 1482
6. Talk to gid he has one nifty idea for minefields..... oh yeah 1482 
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DOM700 [-IMO-]
Fleet Admiral
Joined: July 26, 2001
Posts: 3175
From: Eckental, Germany, Sol-System
| Posted: 2003-11-16 07:25
thats 10 years before Columbus discovered the new world
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Gideon
Cadet
Joined: September 14, 2001
Posts: 4604
From: Oregon, USA
| Posted: 2003-11-16 11:23
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On 2003-11-16 06:11, Axianda *XO* wrote:
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1. I'd suggest ships such as...
2. Better Carriers
3. More powerful and useful Gunships
4. Better Missile Boats
5. Defense Vessels (PD)
6. More defined Minelayers
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1. 1482
2. 1482
3. hrmmm did i mention 1482?
4. WOW 1482 again
5. I remember something about escort destroyers from 1482
6. Talk to gid he has one nifty idea for minefields..... oh yeah 1482
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#6 will actually be some time post 1.482.
Anyways, attempting to diversify ship layouts and making ships have more of a niche within a fleet was one of the goals of v1.482. I can't say yet whether I acheived that goal (need a live beta test to begin first), but I think I got us much closer than now.
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Axianda The Royal
Fleet Admiral
Terra Squadron
Joined: November 20, 2001
Posts: 4273
From: Axianda
| Posted: 2003-11-16 11:33
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#6 will actually be some time post 1.482.
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ACK i have failed my mentor........ i will go to Exatra and lock myself in the vulcan meditation room to remedy this error....
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Ceridan
Cadet
Joined: May 24, 2003
Posts: 608
From: Canada
| Posted: 2003-11-16 18:47
ummm we got a meditation room on Extara? well thats new. For me well going to extara to Introduce the new anti-K'luth weapon... something called flesh eating bacteria 
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Jim Starluck
Marshal
Templar Knights
Joined: October 22, 2001
Posts: 2232
From: Cincinnati, OH
| Posted: 2003-11-16 19:34
Extara? Exatra?
Can't you even spell our homeworld's name right?
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Lupino
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Joined: March 23, 2002
Posts: 359
| Posted: 2003-11-16 19:41
Only traitors spell our homeworld's name wrong...
*mob armed with pitchforks and tourches begins hunting down Ceridan*
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