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Sandals
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|  Posted: 2004-03-07 01:08
This new system is ideal. You can still travel around the MV via shipyards guys, you just can't do it with one ship. you *CAN* still spawn at a SY on the frontlines!
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Tellaris
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| Posted: 2004-03-07 01:20
Thats good for those of us who never really bother modding, but what about those who do?
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Sandals
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| Posted: 2004-03-07 01:36
Use unmodded ships or fly your modded ships to the frontline.
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DOM700 [-IMO-]
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From: Eckental, Germany, Sol-System
| Posted: 2004-03-07 03:11
I agree with what some said
Although the shipyard exploit was of course a downside it made the MV very attractive for the scenario players
This will vanish now
Personally I can live with the exploiting, anyway, I can still spawn unmodded ships whereever I want, therefore this change will not end the exploiting
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Sandals
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| Posted: 2004-03-07 03:38
No, I think the problems were caused:
- You could bring in as much infantry as you wanted through a SY. This made SY planets nearly uncap-able.
-Same with resources
- You couldn't starve a SY of resources. :/
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Barthezzz
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From: The Netherlands
| Posted: 2004-03-07 03:52
I think the new locked shipyards thing isnt very cool...
You should be able to De- and Reconsruct your ship at shipayrds.
So that someone would be able to deconstruct it at Sag Hotta and Reconstruct it at Procyon 3.
Any inf you had in the cargo would of course be left behind...
This way it would still use up planet resources.
Also whenever a planet is being invaded the shipyard should be shut down because the inf in it are needed to defend the building.
The new locked system makes moving around the MV a Pain in the ass. 
Anyway, Fixing lag - good 
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| Posted: 2004-03-07 04:25
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Yeah, it would be cool if you could 'post' your modded ships to a different shipyard. Maybe with a 2 minute time delay. You could still spawn new ship at your destination, but you would have to wait for the ship you want to arrive before you can get it. Also.. any ships that are 'posted' would have all cargo/infantry removed.
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NoPants2win
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| Posted: 2004-03-07 06:03
I agree with pent, 300 second jumps make me want to cry.
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NightDragon
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| Posted: 2004-03-07 06:18
the system is bad for what you want to solve, a timer would be good, as there is a timer to log out, it would stop the just-about-to-die-jump-into-the-shipyard thing, the spawn-an-inff-ull-station on-top-of-invadeing-forces thing
plus if it would require the rescorces, plus the tech lvl it would fix it i am saying this becuase right now minus the lag, MV has been REALLY fun, with so many people, minus the delayed and sticking turning.
but the shipyard thing, its kinda.... messed up, and also what would happen if a shipyard gets capped or destoryed? do you have to pick another starting location or what?
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Pope
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From: World of tomorrow
| Posted: 2004-03-07 08:50
I dont think the filnal words have been spoken on the issue yet, but it is a start!
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Ceridan
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2004-03-07 09:08
Lets keep the old SY system but then we add this:
If an enemy ship Or the Planet is Invaded Then Lock SY to nulify the 5000 spawn at shipyard and/or make SY planet capable
(I hope this system will negate Virtu's habbit to SYout of an area when I tag him with about 15 beacons 
But dont remove the ability to store Infa in the ship's cargo because, for exemple, All my ship(exept my Steath Scout) have Infa on them.
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Demorian
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From: Charlotte, North Carolina
| Posted: 2004-03-07 09:15
Alright, guys.
Let's try the changes out before we judge them. All this complaining isn't fair to Faustus, who hasn't even implemented the code you're all (most of you) condemning.
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| Posted: 2004-03-07 10:16
I agree with everyone else the SY spawning has revived the MV it makes the action fun and fast.
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Undergamer
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| Posted: 2004-03-07 10:22
I disagree with the SY fix. There should be some kind of restriction, so that if your planet is activly defending or being invaded then you cannot spawn at that SY.
But, the SY should function as it did before. How are we supposed to get to the Sol system from the CD system if that was our last gate?
I suppose that means gating through 2 or 3 systems, catching a wormhole to 61 Cyg, and then mabye catch another one to Alpha centari. After that its another 3 jump gates to sol.
So instead of battling each other, we spend the majority of our time jumping around doing nothing, falling prey to those hidden asteroid fields
Thats just my 2 Cents.
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Pope
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From: World of tomorrow
| Posted: 2004-03-07 11:04
Could you guys please actually try to read and understand this:
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On 2004-03-06 21:31, Faustus wrote:
- Ship storage is now locked to the shipyard/gate that was last used. This will stop exploiting of shipyards in the MV.
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