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-DJSMITH- {Thors Hammer}
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|  Posted: 2004-03-09 14:09
eh, uggies just lag up the server by launching millions of fighters, they hit while your stuck in laggsville, good tactic, but it will fail when they get those quad servs 
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-Baron Von Virtu
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| Posted: 2004-03-09 14:49
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On 2004-03-09 14:09, 2nd Rear Admiral DJSMITH0 wrote:
eh, uggies just lag up the server by launching millions of fighters, they hit while your stuck in laggsville, good tactic, but it will fail when they get those quad servs
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I love this old belief, we're trying to kill you with the fighters, not lag you...
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Bobamelius
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Joined: October 08, 2002
Posts: 2074
From: Ohio
| Posted: 2004-03-09 14:58
Sorry about the double post, but my internet was giving me heck earlier.
But yeah limit the amount of fighters active at once, not the total complement.
This game's getting worse and worse all the time, with all the updates that were supposed to be in 1482 coming early without the REST of the updates to balance them out.
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Smith
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| Posted: 2004-03-09 15:54
woot woot .lets just take everything away from the ugto.
now the carrier dread is useless.
bomber fighters r now useless.
fighters r useless.
might as well just remove the ugto from the game cause they've been nerfed to hell in this patch and are now really useless.
how about nerfing someone else for a change?
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NightDragon
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| Posted: 2004-03-09 17:27
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On 2004-03-09 15:54, Smith wrote:
woot woot .lets just take everything away from the ugto.
now the carrier dread is useless.
bomber fighters r now useless.
fighters r useless.
might as well just remove the ugto from the game cause they've been nerfed to hell in this patch and are now really useless.
how about nerfing someone else for a change?
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if you really expected to get all 10 fighters from your bay out at one time, then your really mistaken
Bomber fighters? what bomber fighters? there are no bomber FIGHTERS in the game
In a carrier have you EVER been able to get more than the 8 fighters out before they have been destoryred?
Remove UGTO? no offense but they have not been nerfed THAT bad
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Jim Starluck
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From: Cincinnati, OH
| Posted: 2004-03-09 18:54
What we should REALLY do is get Gideon's newer Fighter models into the game.
Even if we don't include the Intercepter and the Bomber yet, he reduced the model for the Assault Fighter so it is a LOT less graphic-intensive, and thus less lag-inducing.
Right now, a single fighter has easily as many surfaces and textures as a Cruiser or Destroyer. With Gideon's reduction, it has perhaps 1/10 of that. I'm not sure on the exact number, but it WOULD reduce lag.
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Vinco
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From: Too Close for Comfort
| Posted: 2004-03-09 19:22
Regarding fighters... I love flying the carrier. And in any serious battle, I DO use and LOSE all 10 in each slot... I hope this fix stays temporary.
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-=Arch=-
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| Posted: 2004-03-09 20:25
This wont do squat .... The ICC and UGTO both planet camp and launch either waves of missles ... or waves of fighters.
Reducing the fighter bay to 5 wont do anything when as soon as they launch one, the planet relaods them with or without the use of a depot.
If this is a preparation for something coming, then tell us.
But in my opinion, the lag was manageable before Faustus implemented the last patch to (I think he said) introduce the new platform code to the backend.
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Southpark
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Joined: February 25, 2004
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From: Texas
| Posted: 2004-03-09 22:08
i think he meant this change as a warning to not abuse the fighter lag issue or face harsher changes until the "final balance fix" is implemented. I don't mind people using the carrier for its intended purpose, long range support.
but when 4 or 5 carriers camp behind a planet and launch fighters at nothing constantly just to lag the other side out so they go away.. thats ghey.
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Koda
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| Posted: 2004-03-09 23:06
Personally i think that the Planet Defense is the biggest problem in this game. ( Wait wait dont hit me yet).
Fighter bases, and missle bases take too much to overall server power to run, And so why not cut the Fighter Amts down?. thats a good solution. But why not just let planets have Laser Def for bombs and psi/rail/emp def bases for ships who come close enough to drop troops. but make these Faction specific def bases 2times more powerful than the ship class, because they are comming from Huge military instilations.
Let the ships have fighters and missles..
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Tbone
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From: Vancouver
| Posted: 2004-03-09 23:10
Southpark, no matter how much you want something to be true, that does not really make it true.
As I understand the situation, the ICC had many many many more ships then the UGTO. You (the ICC) decided to camp a planet in sensor range of the UGTO and, thus, their fighters.
Tell me, did you ever think of this:
*wait for it*
MOVE AWAY FROM THE UGTO CARRIERS???????????????
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Faustus
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| Posted: 2004-03-10 00:15
Bomb,
Yes, it does do something, once you launch all 5 fighters, you cannot launch anymore unless the other fighters die... so with 3 fighter bays, the most fighters you can have active at one time is 15..... no matter if your orbiting a planet or being resupplied... the same limits like bombing applies as well.
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Flyer
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Joined: December 07, 2001
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From: Belgium
| Posted: 2004-03-10 00:48
Actually this does affect other ships then the carrier as well.
This also reduces the battle dread to the extend that it will lose a lot of effectiveness because it depleted it's fightercomplement.
I agree it is only a small downgrade but nevertheless a downgrade again.
UGTO has been nerved a lot now
-flux has become a heavy weapon (byebye fluxdread) and systemdamage seems to be reduced greatly
-the CD has lost almost all of its effectifness (this was the big advantige for ugto)
-flux beams are not mountable anymore on anything else then the heavy supply
-carrierbay reduction (carriers can only be used in orbid and BD must reload faster)
-what is next ?? remove heavy armor ??
All that and we gained nothing with the patch
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Pope
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From: World of tomorrow
| Posted: 2004-03-10 02:45
calm down already.. geez.
how is this affecting anything other than camping?
when did you have more than 5 fighters out and alive at the same time in a real battle?
stop whining already.. ive been there, ive done it, i know fighters=the evil!
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Pope
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From: World of tomorrow
| Posted: 2004-03-10 02:48
and as far as reducing the poly count goes, that might help *really* low end machines a bit, but DS runs fairly smooth on even my machine, and it isnt going to lower the count of objects the game has to manage, and thus it isnt going to do squat.
sorry.
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