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Astral Viper
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Joined: February 27, 2003
Posts: 343
|  Posted: 2004-03-18 08:08
Heres an idea to help make those revolting planets easier to get back under control and and be a lil more realistic. When a planet revolts all the inf should be killed off cause lets face it a good soldier is not going to revolt against the goverment giving him a steady pay check (i know i wouldnt ) so they would fight back and try to quell the revolt. if they should fail they would either be killed by the populace or taken prisoner they wouldnt just go oh hey lets try beinmg yellow for a while. so that means right after a planet revolts it will have very few inf cause it will have to build new loyal ones. thus if u act quickly the revolt is staunched ( wich is how it would sort of happen if this were real life but hey who can say). just another of my ideas to make the game funererer.
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Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: November 19, 2003
Posts: 76
From: Bedford, Nova Scotia
| Posted: 2004-03-18 08:14
Think if a planet is revolting then some of the building should be lost…cause in a revolt fights do happen so why not planet damage.
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Banshee
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Joined: August 28, 2001
Posts: 2181
From: Philadelphia, PA
| Posted: 2004-03-18 08:14
good idea, nothing more fun that the sport of bathing in innocent blood, well some just dont know when to quit and stay at home do they 
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Astral Viper
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| Posted: 2004-03-18 08:15
lol this is just from a soldiers point of view so if this isnt viable maybe im a bad soldier and should revolt to. 
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Joined: October 18, 2002
Posts: 164
From: UK
| Posted: 2004-03-18 08:39
true you are quite revolting
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Phoebuzz
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Joined: November 17, 2003
Posts: 110
| Posted: 2004-03-18 08:45
Better yet, instead of instantly making the planet switch side to neutral, the planet would have 40-70% (rounded up) of it's infantry change to neutral, which would then fight against the infantry loyal to the old power for the control of the planet.
Of course, while the battle rages a 3rd party could sieze the opportunity of the temporary chaos to snatch the planet. Or the faction that controlled the planet could 'send the cavalry' (bring more faction troops to the planet) to crush the rebellion before they capture the planet.
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Banshee*
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Joined: May 31, 2001
Posts: 62
From: Germany
| Posted: 2004-03-18 09:12
Hey The first good Idea i heared for a long time!
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Doran
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Galactic Navy
Joined: March 29, 2003
Posts: 4032
From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2004-03-18 09:18
add in a revolution time, none of this BAM! planet revolted stuff
News: Political instability on Price
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News: Price as started a revolution
...like 15-30 minutes later...
News: Price has revolted. Now controlled by Unknown
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Wyke {ThorsHammer}
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Joined: February 22, 2003
Posts: 416
| Posted: 2004-03-18 11:52
I agree that rebellion could use some tweaking.
I think modern history has proven military coups are all to common, even in democracies, Pakistan,Burma,Chile to name a few.
When you consider both ICC and UGTO are closer to Anarcho-Capitalist Oligarchies where political power lies with the military and the wealthy. And Kluth are essentially a Meritocratic Theocracy, rebellion would seem very to me very likely. My thoughts on rebellion in game terms.
As the moral of a planet falls units of troops become disloyal (a hidden attribute of each unit).
Elite are more loyal than Hardened, Hardened more loyal than Veteran, etc.
At some point after more troops are disloyal than loyal the coup occurs. The disloyal troops become rebels (yellow).
The rebellious faction gains control of the planet in the normal way because of superior numbers.
A fight ensues between the loyal and disloyal rebel troops and continues until one faction has total control. In the event of no player intervention, this would typically be the more numerous rebel troops.
A player can intervene to put down the rebellion by landing loyal troops, in the normal way an invasion is carried out. However unless a player addresses the under lying moral problem, the disloyalty will return and a new rebellion will occur.
This is largely based on normal game mechanics, offers more depth to rebellion. I think this would encourage and reward earlier player intervention and temper against just bombing the planet into the stone age which is the common solution to disloyal/rebel planets.
p.s. Shouldnt this be 'planets revolting', after all a dank dingy swappy planet whould be a 'revolting planet' but could be absolutely loyal.
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Astral Viper
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| Posted: 2004-03-18 12:00
i dont beleave in grammar nor do i choose to use it.
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Tael
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Joined: July 03, 2002
Posts: 3695
From: San Francisco Bay Area
| Posted: 2004-03-18 12:00
Sometimes the Military revolts against its government if they feel they are poorly paided or treated...
F and I talked sometime back about a more realistic revolt system where the planet goes into revolt and half the population or military switches and the other half remains friendly...
The computer then battles itself for control. This buys you time to land more troops to try and quell the revolt.
Barracks would go offline during revolts as a self balancing mechanism.
This is just one of the ideas we are tossing about.
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Wyke {ThorsHammer}
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Joined: February 22, 2003
Posts: 416
| Posted: 2004-03-18 12:15
It would also be good to have some kind of log of these events so why can see why we have lost a planet.
For example yesterday VA controlled neptune today we do not.
Was it invaded, did it revolt, was it plagued etc. If there was a web log page of server messages for the las 24 hours, i.e. I could find out.
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Blue Ice
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Joined: March 03, 2004
Posts: 43
From: Orange, NJ, USA
| Posted: 2004-03-18 14:55
wana see a current revolt, look at Haiti.
oh and your comment bout all the inf gettin killed off in the revolt cause of pay and s**t, you obviously know NOTHIN bout real life. Thank you. Good night.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=wn&q=haiti
[Edit] yea i the link was bein retarded so i just took it off
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Tbone
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Joined: July 21, 2001
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From: Vancouver
| Posted: 2004-03-18 15:04
Blue, you need to be a bit more careful with the links you post...
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Wyke {ThorsHammer}
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| Posted: 2004-03-18 19:17
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On 2004-03-18 15:04, T "Sugar Buns" Bone wrote:
Blue, you need to be a bit more careful with the links you post...
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I'm glad I wasnt the only one to think that was dangerously off-topic.
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