On 2004-03-31 14:41, Gideon wrote:
A bit more of what we have planned for v1.482…

Slot sizes:

The weapon slot comes in three sizes: small, medium, and large. Each weapon has representatives in each slot. We intend for players to be able to swap between torpedoes, missiles, and direct fire in their slots however they wish. This is to allow players to specialize their ship to do the kind of fighting that each player wants to participate in. And, yes, we did go over every single weapon and revised them in order to try and make sure that each one is much more attractive than the others in certain situations.

A couple of the weapons do not have alternate sizes, and so should be mentioned. The sabot rockets are a small class weapon, with medium class damage abilities, but drawbacks in ammo capacity and projectile velocity. Useful against big slow targets, but pretty much useless against small nimble ones. The gauss gun is a medium class weapon, with large class weapon range, but has the drawback of reduced damage infliction. It allows a player to stand off at ranges that it would not normally be able to function at, but that player wouldn’t be able to inflict as much damage as they could with a more conventional weapon.

All fighters and planets now have components that are specifically designed for them. This will allow us to tweak these components, without interfering with the balance of the rest of the game, giving us better control and yielding a superior product in the long run.

On 2004-03-19 17:44, Purge(Ascension) wrote
Everything customizable!

There are allot of arguments out there that ships and their weapons should be more modifiable, hence while I was just sitting around thinking up solutions:

Removing the EMP cannon from a fighter base in favor of 1.5x faster fighter spawning speeds.
Or with a Defense base, say you had many defense bases but you don't need all of the defensive lasers once you reach a certain amount they jus become repetitious not advantageous. Considering the fact that all of the extra lasers go to waste. You could swap a defensive laser for two EMP cannons, or another IT missile launcher,

You could also trade weapon power for reload time
(Although to raise the weapons power say one level it would raise reload time one point five levels to make it not SO grand).
Also you can trade weapon power for weapon speed
(This includes missiles were engine size and fuel is traded for an additional warhead) and additional speed means additional accuracy.

You could also balance your ships top speed, acceleration, energy output and maneuvering capabilities. This would add an ENTIRELY unique aspect to the game since nearly no ship would be alike and would be adjusted to the owner’s preference. I don’t know about you but if I was on a mission were I wanted to get in and out. Say I was bombing or scouting, I would trade maneuverability and energy for better top speed, acceleration AND reload time. You could even increase Jump Drive recharge time by channeling say 30% energy output of your engines into the recharge rate.

After all we have all seen movies were energy is directed from shields for weapons or from life support to shields whatever.

Feel free to play and tinker with this idea.

P.S. You could also save your personal preferences in a personal preferences list with labels, when using a dread activate your favorite dread makeup for defending or attacking its your choice.

On 2004-03-19 18:28, Sarge -I have the longest name ever- wrote:
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they are trying to balance not make uber

On 2004-03-19 18:31, Tael wrote:
currently there is a max limit of devices per ship, so the trade out idea wont work.

as for customize anything, as we learned when it first went in, bad idea... Suddenly you were getting jumped by fleets of EAD's with interdictors and Kluth were running around with PCM gunboats that cloaked and could fire 7 pcm's

I actually worked up a slot based system that would be self balancing, but currently the game cant support that concept...

On 2004-03-19 18:54, -Baron Von Virtu (Yay..no) wrote:
Why does it seem like Beyond's posts use double space between lines?

On 2004-03-20 01:35, *Defiant* wrote:
i like ur idea charger

On 2004-03-20 01:38, NCX-Charger wrote:
Thanks, I stole it myself

I don't know how feasable it is with the current system... Faust?

For all the JERKS Who flamed my old post which follows you can burn in heck for all I care cause Gideon is using MY IDEA!

Littered throughout the MV in spaceports are many components, that are, quite frankly, worthless. For instance, players ditch IE engines immediately. This is because they are the absolutely worst kind of engine in the game.

On 2004-03-31 17:39, Purge(Ascension) wrote:

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On 2004-03-31 14:41, Gideon wrote: A bit more of what we have planned for v1.482… Slot sizes: The weapon slot comes in three sizes: small, medium, and large. Each weapon has representatives in each slot. We intend for players to be able to swap between torpedoes, missiles, and direct fire in their slots however they wish. This is to allow players to specialize their ship to do the kind of fighting that each player wants to participate in. And, yes, we did go over every single weapon and revised them in order to try and make sure that each one is much more attractive than the others in certain situations. A couple of the weapons do not have alternate sizes, and so should be mentioned. The sabot rockets are a small class weapon, with medium class damage abilities, but drawbacks in ammo capacity and projectile velocity. Useful against big slow targets, but pretty much useless against small nimble ones. The gauss gun is a medium class weapon, with large class weapon range, but has the drawback of reduced damage infliction. It allows a player to stand off at ranges that it would not normally be able to function at, but that player wouldn’t be able to inflict as much damage as they could with a more conventional weapon. All fighters and planets now have components that are specifically designed for them. This will allow us to tweak these components, without interfering with the balance of the rest of the game, giving us better control and yielding a superior product in the long run.

WOW! Gideons Idea is really good! Hmmm were have I heard it before?

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On 2004-03-19 17:44, Purge(Ascension) wrote Everything customizable! There are allot of arguments out there that ships and their weapons should be more modifiable, hence while I was just sitting around thinking up solutions: Removing the EMP cannon from a fighter base in favor of 1.5x faster fighter spawning speeds. Or with a Defense base, say you had many defense bases but you don't need all of the defensive lasers once you reach a certain amount they jus become repetitious not advantageous. Considering the fact that all of the extra lasers go to waste. You could swap a defensive laser for two EMP cannons, or another IT missile launcher, You could also trade weapon power for reload time (Although to raise the weapons power say one level it would raise reload time one point five levels to make it not SO grand). Also you can trade weapon power for weapon speed (This includes missiles were engine size and fuel is traded for an additional warhead) and additional speed means additional accuracy. You could also balance your ships top speed, acceleration, energy output and maneuvering capabilities. This would add an ENTIRELY unique aspect to the game since nearly no ship would be alike and would be adjusted to the owner’s preference. I don’t know about you but if I was on a mission were I wanted to get in and out. Say I was bombing or scouting, I would trade maneuverability and energy for better top speed, acceleration AND reload time. You could even increase Jump Drive recharge time by channeling say 30% energy output of your engines into the recharge rate. After all we have all seen movies were energy is directed from shields for weapons or from life support to shields whatever. Feel free to play and tinker with this idea. P.S. You could also save your personal preferences in a personal preferences list with labels, when using a dread activate your favorite dread makeup for defending or attacking its your choice.

Hmmm...one could call it funny that Tael, Ceridin, Sarge,Baron Von Vitue, and 'Tyrael all flamed my idea yet now when Gideon uses a very similar version of it suddenly its a good idea! But not mine...wait its the same idea...uh oh man do you all look dumb!

Heres some commedy for you!

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On 2004-03-19 18:28, Sarge -I have the longest name ever- wrote: 8 letters B A D I D E A S they are trying to balance not make uber

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On 2004-03-19 18:31, Tael wrote: currently there is a max limit of devices per ship, so the trade out idea wont work. as for customize anything, as we learned when it first went in, bad idea... Suddenly you were getting jumped by fleets of EAD's with interdictors and Kluth were running around with PCM gunboats that cloaked and could fire 7 pcm's I actually worked up a slot based system that would be self balancing, but currently the game cant support that concept...

When did I say that?

and finaly the proof!

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On 2004-03-20 01:35, *Defiant* wrote: i like ur idea charger

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On 2004-03-20 01:38, NCX-Charger wrote: Thanks, I stole it myself I don't know how feasable it is with the current system... Faust?

So far both Charger and then Gideon have used my idea...only slightly tweaked...well...I guess that means that my idea is good too...wow I feel embarrased for all those who flamed me...lol man do they look stupid now !

The sharpest sword does not compare to the sharpest mind...
-Purge

Call me Purge for that is what I do...


[ This Message was edited by: Purge(Ascension) on 2004-03-31 18:21 ]

On 2004-03-31 17:39, Purge(Ascension) wrote:
blah blah blah

THANK YOU no more ECM extractors.