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Tzunamii {Cmdr}
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Joined: February 07, 2004
Posts: 28
|  Posted: 2004-06-20 08:17
Well, I've had just enough with this SY jumping.
Getting a new ship at a SY when you get attacked is not SY jumping, but doing infinite re-spawning with a new ship at a SY-planet when attacked is.
The UGTO is blaming the ICC for it and vice versa. I don't care which faction is doing it cuz it's borderlining abuse anyhow.
This must come to an end.
I know this has been discussed before the last patch, but as nothing has changed I want to illuminate the issue again so it will be addressed in this patch.
My suggestion is two timers on every SY. One for "garage'd" ships and one for new spawns. Let's say 2 mins for the first and 4 mins for the second.
This will enhance the tactical thinking of every player as they won't be able to use the SY as today.
Regards,
/Tzunamii.
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Xilaratu
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Joined: May 06, 2004
Posts: 745
From: Florida
| Posted: 2004-06-20 08:25
It all depends.... and allthough its a very workable idea.... it'd be the same as the whole "Death Timer" thing [OLD OLD topic, back in 1480 with kami].
I wouldn't mind it 
-Darkspacian
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Tzunamii {Cmdr}
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Joined: February 07, 2004
Posts: 28
| Posted: 2004-06-20 10:52
Not quite...
My proposal does not mean u have to wait X seconds after you died to spawn a ship. If you died - you should be able to spawn a new ship if your last spawn (read: timer) has counted down.
In other words, not a timer on your death/spawn. It's a huge difference.
Regards,
/Tzunamii.
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Baron Von Virtu
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Joined: November 01, 2003
Posts: 58
| Posted: 2004-06-20 11:51
Four minutes?!? 30 seconds to a minute if that idea is ever used. What about the people who don't want to play Darkspace in "EvE Time".
What we SHOULD do is make SY's unuseable when enemy troops are on a planet or if the planet is getting bombed.
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DangerBabe
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Joined: December 21, 2002
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From: Charlotte, NC
| Posted: 2004-06-20 11:58
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On 2004-06-20 11:51, Baron Von Virtu [Rogue for Mod!] wrote:
What we SHOULD do is make SY's unuseable when enemy troops are on a planet or if the planet is getting bombed.
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I like this idea!
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Dempster
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Joined: August 03, 2003
Posts: 668
| Posted: 2004-06-20 12:07
lol..... i thought thats what `BLOCKADE` was for...
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DangerBabe
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From: Charlotte, NC
| Posted: 2004-06-20 12:14
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On 2004-06-20 12:07, GingerBreadMan! wrote:
lol..... i thought thats what `BLOCKADE` was for...
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So you're saying that in the current version of the game, if the ICC are attacking a UGTO SY planet, the ICC can "blockade" the UGTO planet (while it's still under UGTO control) and prevent UGTO players from spawning at that planet's SY?
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Baron Von Virtu
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| Posted: 2004-06-20 12:36
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On 2004-06-20 12:07, GingerBreadMan! wrote:
lol..... i thought thats what `BLOCKADE` was for...
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That's what I thought too for a while. Then apparently found out that it didnt work...
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Doran
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Joined: March 29, 2003
Posts: 4032
From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2004-06-20 13:47
what the blockade status currently does is stop the transfer of resources to or from a blockaded planet by the automated starport system, which will eventually curtail the rapid spawning of stations, dreads and cruisers from a planet as it runs out of resorces
theres a more in-depth thread around here somewhere, if anyone cares to dig thru old posts
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back to the topic at hand
could take a page out of Enemy Territory or UT2k4 for the respawn timer
can choose a new ship, but cant acutaly pull it out of the yard untill the timer runs down, every 1-2 minutes or so, maybe introduce some method of decreasing the time a little bit (say, presence or lack of a command dread?)
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Dempster
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| Posted: 2004-06-20 17:19
thats a load of bs, every planet in the mv has so many metals it would be days, WEEKS before that would happen
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Jar Jar Binks
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Joined: December 25, 2001
Posts: 556
| Posted: 2004-06-20 17:24
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On 2004-06-20 17:19, GingerBreadMan! wrote:
thats a load of bs, every planet in the mv has so many metals it would be days, WEEKS before that would happen
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lol, guess u werent in Tau Ceti when ICC attacked UGTO yesterday... when i logged on we had 2 SY planets there and we lost all resources in about 20 minutes...
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Fornax
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Joined: April 30, 2002
Posts: 906
From: Jacksonville, FL
| Posted: 2004-06-20 17:28
A week or so ago, the ICC maintained a presence in Cyg despite a 30+ hour continuous assault. While I do not know what others did, I know I personally shipped in at least 75K hydrogen just so we could spawn new construction.
Nax
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Doran
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From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2004-06-20 18:11
like i said, eventually
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Gideon
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Joined: September 14, 2001
Posts: 4604
From: Oregon, USA
| Posted: 2004-06-20 19:35
Shipyard planets are the most important planets in the game.
Because of this, they need to be the best defended.
Currently, the only way a planet can withstand a concerted effort by a single player attacking it, is to have one or more players defending it.
Because of this, all planet defense revolves around players defending them.
Because of this, the logically increased defensive capacity of a shipyard planet is expressed solely through the ability of players to respawn new ships there rapidly.
Include a shipyard timer, and you seriously reduce the ability for a shipayrd planet to defend itself, lowering it to the level of a standard planet, or less due to the resource occupation (power and pop) of the shipyard itself.
Basically, inducing a respawn timer on a shipyard planet will make shipyard planets very weak. It is because of this, that I have to oppose the inclusion of any limitation on the respawn capacity of a shipyard.
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Malarthi
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| Posted: 2004-06-20 21:45
[ This Message was edited by: MYS Leader 1 on 2004-06-29 17:04 ]
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