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 Author Computer crashes after 5-10 mins of play
Memnojokasel
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Joined: March 07, 2005
Posts: 7
From: Bloomington, IN
Posted: 2006-02-28 21:42   
I will be playing a game, and it will crash and reboot my computer after 5-10 mins of playtime. THe only other game I have that does this is Star Wars: Empire at War, which is a well known bug.
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Joined: March 16, 2003
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Posted: 2006-02-28 22:02   
Ya need some power in ya machine!

(Check the fan!, Dust it)

Also could be your virtual memory
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Joined: March 23, 2003
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From: Bristol, England
Posted: 2006-02-28 22:49   
DarkSpace uses all of your available CPU and GFX power, unless you limit it (and that's only the CPU, it'll still render polys and particles like no tomorrow).

EAW is also a very particle and poly heavy game, so this indicates to me that it's a heat problem. I'd like to know the make, model and manufacturer of your card. If it's a low end card, it's possible it has no fan, and only a heatsink. Whilst this is ok for most games. Any game that pushes your GFX card as hard as it can (and there are many) will steadily increase the temperature of your card. This can cause problems, since the transistors in your graphics card or CPU will be straining to push power through themselves, which is why games slow down, or crash when they heat up.

My advice:

Check for dust in the fans, and check to see if your graphics card has a fan attatched. Chances are, it's just a case of proper ventilation.

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It won't be the virtual memory. If it was the virtual memory, your machine would slow to a halt, and you'd just experience slow gameplay, and periodic pauses.

[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* on 2006-02-28 22:53 ]
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Memnojokasel
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Posted: 2006-02-28 23:50   
I thought that was maybe the problem, the CPU is a Sempron XP Barton core 3000+ 512MD RAM and never goes above 55c. Video is a Geforce FX 5200, which sadly has no fan, but I run Rome:TW with no problems. Will check temps though

Good thing I'm already shopping for cooling solutions

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Posted: 2006-03-01 00:10   
You may like to know that the Geforce 5X series, is broken. It has a broken design, and VERY little games fully support its instruction set. Hence why they perform so badly.

Not to mention that the 5200 is the lowest card you can get from that range. It's not going to be a performer. If I where you, I'd try get a Ati 9600XT or Ati 9600Pro since they're really cheap. They come with fans, and they're the best mid ranged - cheap cards you can buy.

It's just not worth wasting your money on cooling that card.

- Jack
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Memnojokasel
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Posted: 2006-03-01 00:47   
Actually checked card, and it had a fan, and need some internal dusting. Due to test Darkspace out again.

My FX has always served its purpose, and i have no complaints from it, if fact it ran this game previously(and stable) when I was more active on this game before. This problem has only arisen now. Star Wars:EAW crashes due to a memory leak as explained on the EXCEPTION_HANDLE error thread show in lucasarts forum. The devs know about it and are working on a fix.

Rome:TW has ran very good and stable and has never crashed on me, and due to the sheer quantity of rendering it uses, i can't see poly rendering having an effect on this error.

Will post about if it works or not



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Posted: 2006-03-01 01:10   
Good luck with it.
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Joined: May 30, 2003
Posts: 2449
From: United Kingdom
Posted: 2006-03-01 05:51   
As a test, set your max FPS in DS to 30 and reduce the particle effect slider to about 5-10%. This should alleviate most of the stress on the card (if the cause is heat).

You can also find a lot of tweak suggestions and setup tips in the Client Installation Issues (Hardware/Drivers) forum.
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Likkarn *Freelance*
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Joined: December 29, 2005
Posts: 148
From: Gresham, Oregon. USA.
Posted: 2006-03-01 10:20   
Um, you guys need graphics cards to run this game? Im using my integ and the game runs great, exept for the ingame lag. I have no graphics lag. I dont see how the card is a problem at all. Unless you have a card like my homie, shinanai has. Compaq presario, with Windows ME. Yeah. Dont laugh, he got rid of ME and got XP Pro.
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Joined: March 29, 2003
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Posted: 2006-03-01 10:47   
you dont NEED a graphics card, it's just usually better with one. and most OTHER games these days REQUIRE a graphics card, so if you plan on playing anything other than windows solitair or darkspace.... get a card.

[edit] moved to general support
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From: smilingjester
Posted: 2006-03-01 21:35   
else is all else fails, light something on fire and blame it on goth
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Joined: March 23, 2003
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From: Bristol, England
Posted: 2006-03-01 21:38   
Intergrated graphics is still a graphics card, just intergrated.

It shares the main memory for textures though, which is NOT good (the reason graphics cards have their own memory, is to store textures, and there's a lot of 'em!). So you're losing on average, about 64-256mb of memory, just on this intergrated thing you called a "graphics card". Personally, I hate them, and they cause more problems than they are worth.

It's better to get a cheap graphics card than an intergrated one.

Anyways...
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