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GothThug {C?}
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Joined: June 29, 2005
Posts: 2932
|  Posted: 2006-03-21 21:23
Okay, basically im saying this, i want to be able to mod out Torpedos instead of Missles for the following ships
1. Sensor Corvette
2. Assault Frigate
3. Missle Cruiser
4. all Kluth ships
5. Combat Destroyer
6. Interdictors
7. Heavy Cruiser
8. UGTO Frigates
9. UGTO Assault Dessie
Im getting sick and tired of the ICC's and Kluths voices not being heard, so, im taking the inititive and Posting a thread voicing my concern on Torps/Missles because 1 you cant Fight Close Combat with them and 2. they lag up the damn server. so instead of listening to Jack, LISTEN to the players not him or anyone else that lobby camps. im done
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Maskerade
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Joined: March 21, 2002
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-22 00:18
Interdictors should be stand off vessels, IMHO it would be more suiting for them to be armed with missiles over torpedos. This may leave them somewhat vulnerable to close quaters battle but that is where teamwork comes in.
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Light-of-Aurora
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Joined: December 01, 2003
Posts: 602
From: NJ, USA
| Posted: 2006-03-22 07:52
ICC ships are supposed to excel at stand - off missile combat. I suppose you're right about K'luth ships though, since when they uncloak to alpha, they're within 250gu disruptor range..
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Pope
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Posts: 2449
From: World of tomorrow
| Posted: 2006-03-22 11:16
In practice, Interdictors get involved in close combat all the time. Also, 400-800 gu is not really standoff, but medium range, considering the range of missiles and torpedoes.
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GothThug {C?}
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| Posted: 2006-03-22 12:20
i'd also like for the engines to get a Severe Overhaul on dessies, in beta i noticed you cant change out the engines for AME, PFE, or AFE which is utter Bullcrap, and you cant even change out the Tachyon drive for an AMJ!? thats just crap man, and you guys trying to justify that ICC is a Missle Faction thats crap, i love torpedos, dont get me wrong, but i am not a planet hugger and i do NOT appreciate missles on my ships when i want to jump out and fight!
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Borgie
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Joined: August 15, 2005
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From: close by
| Posted: 2006-03-22 12:57
i think alot of ships need to be re worked but hey but thats my opinon
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HaVoX
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Joined: September 07, 2003
Posts: 269
From: Florida whoo hoo
| Posted: 2006-03-22 16:07
i say torps and missles should be optional on certain ships not on others, maybe turnspeed and max excelration could be a factor, that would limit them to cruisers and lower leaving out dreads and such. Also ship desiggnation could be a factor, anything with assult or combat inthe name could change out torps and missles, anything with comand, missles, sensor etc could not.
Just a thought
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Doran
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From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2006-03-22 16:09
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On 2006-03-22 12:20, Fatal EmoGothThug {C?} wrote:
i'd also like for the engines to get a Severe Overhaul on dessies, in beta i noticed you cant change out the engines for AME, PFE, or AFE which is utter Bullcrap, and you cant even change out the Tachyon drive for an AMJ!?
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thats why its beta.
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thats just crap man, and you guys trying to justify that ICC is a Missle Faction thats crap, i love torpedos, dont get me wrong, but i am not a planet hugger and i do NOT appreciate missles on my ships when i want to jump out and fight!
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it is. ugto = fighters, icc = missiles, kluth = torpedoes
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Doran
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From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2006-03-22 16:09
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On 2006-03-22 12:20, Fatal EmoGothThug {C?} wrote:
i'd also like for the engines to get a Severe Overhaul on dessies, in beta i noticed you cant change out the engines for AME, PFE, or AFE which is utter Bullcrap, and you cant even change out the Tachyon drive for an AMJ!?
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thats why its beta. and why would you WANT to use AFE's in the first place?
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thats just crap man, and you guys trying to justify that ICC is a Missle Faction thats crap, i love torpedos, dont get me wrong, but i am not a planet hugger and i do NOT appreciate missles on my ships when i want to jump out and fight!
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it is. ugto = fighters, icc = missiles, kluth = torpedoes
[ This Message was edited by: Doran on 2006-03-22 16:10 ]
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GothThug {C?}
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| Posted: 2006-03-22 16:17
Then its time for a change then Doran UGTO=Fighters ICC=Torpedos Kluth=Cloak/Hit and Run The Kluth no longer use Torpedos for they use PSI Missles and other missles
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Coeus {NCX-Charger}
Admiral, I can't read,
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Joined: February 16, 2004
Posts: 3635
From: South Philly
| Posted: 2006-03-22 21:04
I think the best idea that I've seen yet is to have all ships with the words "Combat" or "Assault" in their names able to make the switch (or else have this switch unnecessary) - along with the K'Luth counterparts.
But absolutely positively do NOT leave it as "Missiles = missiles & Torps = torps" across the entire spectrum - at least, not if the ship layouts are staying the way they are (which they shouldn't by a longshot... bring back the 480-482 layouts is my vote)...
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GothThug {C?}
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| Posted: 2006-03-22 22:50
Amen coeus well said and thank you ^_^ 
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Maskerade
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-03-22 22:56
My only concern is the Intedictors really. They are support ships, not combat ships. They should have some minor combat ability, more than that of supplys but well less than true combat vessels. It is in that concept that the Interdictor should be more of a missle ship. Although I would concede maybe an exception in the matter of piercers.
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Walrus of Apathy
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Joined: August 07, 2005
Posts: 466
From: Dorans Basement
| Posted: 2006-03-23 07:22
You know i think missles should just be replacable with torps on any ship.in the current MV my interceptor frig has had the missles replaced with p torps becuase i have no use for missles,they just lag up the server.in beta i try to dp the same and it won't let me. all it does is let me switch to ar missles.they are better but not what i want to have on my frig
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Enterprise
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Posts: 2576
From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2006-03-23 14:19
The last time we had missiles replaceable with torps, we had the Missile Dreadnought converted to the Torpedo Dreadnought.
Not the design. Not the intention. No. No.
Personally, the simplest concept with modding, and the best is restricting. Torpedos with torpedos, missiles with missles, etc. etc. The only way that works however, if ships layouts are better modified.
That is, missile ships not having torpedos, and vice versa.
And laser boats not having cannons.
And having combinations, like cannons and torpedos, or missiles and lasers, or three of a kind, like cannons, torpedos and lasers. Along with the other types of weapons.
But how it should be is, having ships designed for one purpose, and ships designed with a little generality.
For example, the Torpedo Cruiser should have a good 80% of its weaponry, you guessed it, Torpedos.
But ships like the Battle Dreadnought, Would have cannons as a majority of its armament (like, 60%), but dividing the rest among Lasers for defence and Torpedos for heavy fire.
And so on.
So alot of layouts would need to be tweaked, and new ships brought in for that matter.
-Ent
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