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James Bum007 Grand Admiral Pitch Black
Joined: April 23, 2003 Posts: 480 From: Queens, New York
| Posted: 2006-04-27 14:25  
There's nothing wrong with it, just wanted to say that for a while now. I just won't go all the way down on your posts.
I'm traumatized by the signature I guess
"Nough Said"
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Bash Fleet Admiral
Joined: February 04, 2005 Posts: 365
| Posted: 2006-04-27 14:39  
you got the bum scared look what you did now he can mute no one.
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lightning[Voyager][ A ] Cadet
Joined: August 04, 2004 Posts: 419 From: CANADA. QUEBEC
| Posted: 2006-04-27 16:22  
Since Mac has put the Intel chip in its system, There is a good possibilty of running Windos XP on a MAC.
In many ways, it will permit to have access to way more programs that are normaly made just for MAC.
Me, as a MAC lover, im very glad about this since ill be able to do some vidéo post-productions aswell as playing at Darkspace and others games.
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[ This Message was edited by: lightning[Voyager][ R33 ] on 2006-04-27 16:23 ]
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BackSlash Marshal Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003 Posts: 11183 From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-04-27 18:48  
Mac cannot emulate directx properly, and therefor, cannot run DarkSpace. I believe my friend Sono has been able to run GCQL on WineX, but it took him a long while, and even then, he couldn't get it to function properly, and DarkSpace would not start.
Some people seem to think that just because the CPU has changed from a PowerCPU to an Intel chip, that all of a sudden Windows can be installed. A small FYI for those of you who think it's all because of the Intel chip, the iWindows project (Windows on a Macintosh) was started years ago, and can run on a PowerCPU with a bit of modification. Indeed, having an Intel CPU does make it easier, but not significantly.
Mac machines cannot run Windows without hacking both hardware and software. Not only that, but no PC components work in Mac's, meaning even IF you can get it to emulate DirectX properly, the Mac's don't have the power to emulate it properly. I don't know if you've ever seen a software layer of DirectX, but just running Counter strike (7 year old game) in Software render mode makes the machine shudder to a halt, and that's just a simplified DirectX emulation by the machine. Mac's cannot handle this properly, and can only run games where a majority of the graphics are handled by the CPU. Currently, one of the only newer games to work on the Mac-Hack, is EVE-Online, and that's because 75%~ of it's graphics are generated by the CPU, with marginal help from the graphics card.
Since a Mac cannot fit a graphics card (a PC one), it cannot support hardware DirectX, and therefor, cannot run games properly. There are Windows emulation software for Mac, but you'll find that the gaming performance on it is utterly rubbish, and no where near that of a proper pc.
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MainDarkmaster*P3* Admiral
Joined: May 28, 2005 Posts: 97 From: USA
| Posted: 2006-04-27 21:04  
oh my god please change it already
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Borgie Chief Marshal Pitch Black
Joined: August 15, 2005 Posts: 2256 From: close by
| Posted: 2006-04-27 23:25  
so even with the boot camp softwear you still wouldn't be able to play darkspace on a mac.. well hell
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Ragglock Marshal BIOnics Industry Syndicate
Joined: May 29, 2001 Posts: 1955 From: Denmark
| Posted: 2006-04-28 04:28  
not so fast
I’ve been playing with Windows XP SP2 on a 20-inch Intel-based iMac at work. And it really works quite remarkably.
i have even gone so far to thinking about installing Boot Camp om my new
MacBook Pro , reason simple my homesystem is running XP and my work notebook is MacBook Pro , nice for me to have same programs avalible on both systems with a few keystrokes.
as it is now i can use my mac software on XP but not the other way around.
and dont forget that these changes are just first steps
want some hardcore performance facts look here at PC world
im going all the way soon gona test ds
btw Directx 10 is gona be platform idependent so pc/Linux/mac/xbox what ever, all use the same.....
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BackSlash Marshal Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003 Posts: 11183 From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-04-28 08:07  
The real problem is, there's no hardware DX10 support on iMac's, and I doubt Apple can make graphics cards that are up to spec of that of Matrox/Nvidia/Ati and such. But - time will tell.
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$yTHe {C?} Grand Admiral Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: September 29, 2002 Posts: 1292 From: Arlington, VA
| Posted: 2006-04-28 14:35  
"Using a Mac is a little different than using a PC. You sort of have to trick it, fool it into what you really want it to do. Um, you kind of have to sneak up on a Mac."
"I don't feel that I'm so much operating the Mac as that I'm there sharing the Mac experience. And if I can get something useful done while the Mac is willing, so much the better."
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Coeus {NCX-Charger} Admiral, I can't read, Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 3635 From: South Philly
| Posted: 2006-04-28 19:14  
Someone link that vid!
Besides though, everyone knows that its just a matter of time before MS assimilates apple...
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BackSlash Marshal Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003 Posts: 11183 From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-04-28 19:15  
Video has swearing in it - so you can't
I believe it's on video google though, someplace.
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Coeus {NCX-Charger} Admiral, I can't read, Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 3635 From: South Philly
| Posted: 2006-04-28 19:17  
Oh like I'm gonna dig through all that... someone PM me the vid
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BackSlash Marshal Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003 Posts: 11183 From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-04-28 19:22  
Done!
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Coeus {NCX-Charger} Admiral, I can't read, Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 3635 From: South Philly
| Posted: 2006-04-28 19:23  
<3 teh jackle...
Now to promptly spam that off the screen with lots of screaming in /send f
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BackSlash Marshal Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003 Posts: 11183 From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-04-28 19:29  
OOooh..
http://files.redvsblue.com/switch/RvB_Switch.mov
Funny anti-mac video.
Should give you an idea of just how friendly Mac's are with games.
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