On 2006-09-11 22:33, Lacrosseian wrote:
So I have been in the Air Force for a couple of months and I have come to know a few quotes that I rather like. Those who are or were in the military may enjoy them.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than hiumself.
-John Stuart Mill

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given is the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag.
-Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, Sergeant, USMC

On 2006-09-14 21:09, kenetiks wrote:
There is only a certain set of circumstances worth war. Nothing within the last 60 or so years has even come close to one glimmer of excuse for it. The rest is murder and being a pompass giant police force for overbearing profiteers and corporate lobbyists. This is based only in fact. Cold hard documented fact.

On 2006-09-14 21:09, kenetiks wrote:

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On 2006-09-11 22:33, Lacrosseian wrote: So I have been in the Air Force for a couple of months and I have come to know a few quotes that I rather like. Those who are or were in the military may enjoy them. War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than hiumself. -John Stuart Mill

There is only a certain set of circumstances worth war. Nothing within the last 60 or so years has even come close to one glimmer of excuse for it. The rest is murder and being a pompass giant police force for overbearing profiteers and corporate lobbyists. This is based only in fact. Cold hard documented fact.

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It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given is the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag. -Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, Sergeant, USMC

And yet the soldier who makes a difference between the right and wrong orders, which ones are lawful and within the confines of any armed conflict and which ones are morally, ethicly and legally questionable to his commanders are usually crucified, publicly ridiculed by government media propaganda and submitted to years and sometimes the rest of thier lives to government captivity.

The soldier has no rights, no free speech and is not allowed to think for themselves to make moral decisions. So let's not wave that flag and parade around blowing the bagpipes shall we.

This will no doubt get this topic locked. My apologies in advance.

On 2006-10-04 12:08, thundercat{recruiting} wrote:

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On 2006-09-14 21:09, kenetiks wrote: Quote: On 2006-09-11 22:33, Lacrosseian wrote: So I have been in the Air Force for a couple of months and I have come to know a few quotes that I rather like. Those who are or were in the military may enjoy them. War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than hiumself. -John Stuart Mill There is only a certain set of circumstances worth war. Nothing within the last 60 or so years has even come close to one glimmer of excuse for it. The rest is murder and being a pompass giant police force for overbearing profiteers and corporate lobbyists. This is based only in fact. Cold hard documented fact. Quote: It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given is the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag. -Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, Sergeant, USMC And yet the soldier who makes a difference between the right and wrong orders, which ones are lawful and within the confines of any armed conflict and which ones are morally, ethicly and legally questionable to his commanders are usually crucified, publicly ridiculed by government media propaganda and submitted to years and sometimes the rest of thier lives to government captivity. The soldier has no rights, no free speech and is not allowed to think for themselves to make moral decisions. So let's not wave that flag and parade around blowing the bagpipes shall we. This will no doubt get this topic locked. My apologies in advance.

Spoken like someone thats leads a free and easy life thanks to the protection and determination of troops, that he is to ungrateful to thank and honor for their sacrafice.