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Reeves-81
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Joined: January 24, 2006
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From: Canada
|  Posted: 2007-01-18 06:22
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On 2007-01-17 22:25, Faustus wrote:
I know everyone is anxious about the current status of version 484... so here is the scoop...
I'm about 80% done with a major rollback of the server backend to less fragile and and better system that used UDP packets to transmit ship movements...
DarkSpace was a great experiment in "Deterministic" networking... the experiement is now over. What I mean by this, is I was trying to reduce bandwidth by transmitting only changes in the world to the clients. This system has always been plagued with problems, mostly performance issues.
The upcoming changes move DS to a more traditional networking system that requires much LESS server overhead and work.
You see, currently my servers are CPU bound by the deterministic system in the current version. This means, when you turn your ship, a packet is sent up to the server with a timestamp, if the packet arrives late, the server actually recalculates your ships position back in time, applies the change, then recalculates the updated position of your ship. This has one terrible side effect, a slow client who is sending lots of late packets can actually cause more CPU to be used by the server.
Anyway, I know it sucks to wait forever for an update... but I assure everyone that I will make sure this version is the best ever update of DS.
Cheers,
Richard
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lets see now, 80% done, been waiting for what.... at least 18!! months so by your math it should be done in about 4 months!!, lol. Let us know when its done. I think Maybe you should consider hiring someone to do it if it takes you that long because it shouldn't.
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Borgie
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Joined: August 15, 2005
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From: close by
| Posted: 2007-01-18 09:00
that would cost money
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Joined: December 11, 2005
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From: happy land
| Posted: 2007-01-18 09:34
yay 
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BackSlash
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Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2007-01-18 09:58
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On 2007-01-18 06:22, Reeves-81 wrote:
lets see now, 80% done, been waiting for what.... at least 18!! months so by your math it should be done in about 4 months!!, lol. Let us know when its done. I think Maybe you should consider hiring someone to do it if it takes you that long because it shouldn't.
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That 18 months hasn't been spent on this alone. Get your facts straight before mouthing off.
Faustus doesn't post here a lot, since he's hard at work. If you want to put him off giving such information like he did, then you're doing a good job.
[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* on 2007-01-18 11:19 ]
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Enterprise
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Joined: May 19, 2002
Posts: 2576
From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2007-01-18 14:12
F = best damn programmer there is, seeings how he has a full-time job and can balance coding DS all on his own.
If you aren't patient to wait any longer - we're sorry. The last 3 times we said "OMG NOW NOW NOW" we kinda yeh know, screwing the game up.
This time, I would wait until 2008 if it meant that this next version is done right and correctly and how it should be. If it really rankles your patience, play something else until then. DS will still be here, and I have a hard tim believing it will go away anytime soon - no matter what silly doomsayers out there might say.
-Ent
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Supertrooper
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Joined: March 18, 2004
Posts: 1895
From: Maryland, U.S.A
| Posted: 2007-01-18 14:36
Everyone who's going 'Releases .484 now! Omfg this version sucks!' needs to walk off a cliff, and possibly into the blades of a hellicopter waiting below.
Why do you think this version is so bad? Players threatened to leave and unsubb due to well, flux (Which wasnt that bad compared to this). They basicaly caused this version to be rushed and well, here we are now.
Take all the time you need F-man, I got time to wait.
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Reeves-81
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2007-01-20 06:10
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On 2007-01-18 09:58, BackSlash *Jack* wrote:
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On 2007-01-18 06:22, Reeves-81 wrote:
lets see now, 80% done, been waiting for what.... at least 18!! months so by your math it should be done in about 4 months!!, lol. Let us know when its done. I think Maybe you should consider hiring someone to do it if it takes you that long because it shouldn't.
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That 18 months hasn't been spent on this alone. Get your facts straight before mouthing off.
Faustus doesn't post here a lot, since he's hard at work. If you want to put him off giving such information like he did, then you're doing a good job.
[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* on 2007-01-18 11:19 ]
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lol, poor jack. stfu and go play. Look at your post, do you realize that you come off as a bit of an ass, your the type that they shouldn't let post, all that your doing is trying to encite an arguement, my post was a response to F which is why I quoted him. Jack YOUR not that important, in fact you have absolutly nothing to do with my post, "besides wanting to be part of it", lol
Ive said enough, just checkin in to see if they fixed anything yet, by the look of it, its worse than ever  .
So hows this I will politely ask. "Please Faustus, do the 1 months worth of work that you set out to do 18 months ago. Appearently you work hard, so if you cant do it pay someone, try using some of the money that we've given you,"..............................................SAME RESULT===Nothing
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YIIMM
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Joined: June 16, 2005
Posts: 851
From: Barcino, Hispania Tarraconensis
| Posted: 2007-01-20 06:25
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On 2007-01-20 06:10, Reeves-81 wrote:
lol, poor jack. stfu and go play. Look at your post, do you realize that you come off as a bit of an ass, your the type that they shouldn't let post, all that your doing is trying to encite an arguement
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It's important to realise that when you resort to insults, you hardly look any better.
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On 2007-01-20 06:10, Reeves-81 wrote:
So hows this I will politely ask. "Please Faustus, do the 1 months worth of work that you set out to do 18 months ago. Appearently you work hard, so if you cant do it pay someone, try using some of the money that we've given you,"..............................................SAME RESULT===Nothing
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People have been asking things along that line since this patch was released, if asking him to hurry up worked, we would have known by now.
This is his hobby, he does this (I assume) for fun. The last thing that's needed is to make it stressful, because then he's liable not to want to work on it. If he wants he doesn't have to answer to any of us, and no amount of pleading will bring out the new patch quicker.
If you really cannot stand playing the game as it is, then do not play. Leave for a bit, then come back when it's done.
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Reeves-81
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Joined: January 24, 2006
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2007-01-20 11:00
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On 2007-01-20 06:25, YIIMM wrote:
It's important to realise that when you resort to insults, you hardly look any better.
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True, I shouldn't have lowered myself to that level. About F getting this done, I would just like to see this game come back, and for the community to wise up a little and realize that this is their game, they pay for it and its not too much to ask for it to work right or even to demand it.
Locked the post, typical DS logic, "dont make too much sense or we'll shut you down, lol"
[ This Message was edited by: Reeves-81 on 2007-01-23 04:54 ]
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ForMichael
Joined: June 11, 2004
Posts: 61
| Posted: 2007-01-20 11:09
I wish I would have seen this thread sooner.
I have my estimate. I'll leave now. I'll be back in couple of months. I hope everyone will miss me.
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Joined: December 11, 2005
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From: happy land
| Posted: 2007-01-20 11:24
This is why we never end up with nice topics....
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Bobamelius
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Joined: October 08, 2002
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From: Ohio
| Posted: 2007-01-20 11:40
I believe it's lockie-time.
It would be really cool if you guys could discuss stuff without flaming each other all the time, really.
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