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Kluth Cloak vs ECCM Pinging (Constructive posts please) |
Mithrandir
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Joined: October 22, 2001
Posts: 1276
|  Posted: 2008-10-10 07:00
On the plus side, things are being fixed on a daily basis. I'd call that pretty damned exciting, given 1483...
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Gejaheline
Fleet Admiral
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Joined: March 19, 2005
Posts: 1127
From: UGTO MUNIN HQ, Mars
| Posted: 2008-10-10 07:11
Indeed, Mith, and I certainly know I'm grateful for it.
As a dedicated UGTO player, I find pinging very useful if somewhat laborious, particularly since it helps stop luth dreads from picking off all the scouts and frigates without warning. However, I do agree that the fact that practically every single ship out there can ping is just as unfair as when any ship could swap out for beacons. Is there a way it could be limited to, say, scouts and command vessels or something?
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JBud
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Joined: February 26, 2008
Posts: 1900
From: Behind you.
| Posted: 2008-10-10 07:18
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On 2008-10-10 07:11, Gejaheline wrote:
Indeed, Mith, and I certainly know I'm grateful for it.
As a dedicated UGTO player, I find pinging very useful if somewhat laborious, particularly since it helps stop luth dreads from picking off all the scouts and frigates without warning. However, I do agree that the fact that practically every single ship out there can ping is just as unfair as when any ship could swap out for beacons. Is there a way it could be limited to, say, scouts and command vessels or something?
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awesome idea i second this
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Russian Roulette with Muskets
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Joined: September 04, 2002
Posts: 393
| Posted: 2008-10-10 07:48
awesome idea?
Not realy. its still a robot hitting p every 15 seconds. Do i need my personal ping alt now? If its a scout ittl be trial acc....
Building on the "guy hits P every so few seconds" is like building your house on marshmellows.
And limiting it to scouts and frigs ist just like saying: "Don't start using it we will insta beam it to death anyway!"
It should be a cruiser and destroyer sized type of vessel. A True support ship. Might call them EW Destroyers/cruisers.
Make it Pilotable at a reasonable rank so that new players can contribute besides being supply whores or easy pickings.
Get an EW vessel, fit it for the faction your up against (ecm/eccm if humans, anti cloack ping system if its kluth).
The ping module will ping every XX seconds with a chance of revealing the position of a kluth. the more ships are there pinging the less efficient will it become. make it a curve. while 2 ships might be good, 4 might be counteactive.
its basicly a game of numbers and formulaes once you have decided to actualy stick to specialized vessels for the job.
Maybee award scout pres (low value) for every luth uncovered and every XXX seconds of active ECM/ECCM/scanning.
so much room to do COOL things.
don't limit us to robot button mashers even >I< (stands both for me and signifies my incompetence at scripting and stuff) can script me a macro for....
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JBud
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| Posted: 2008-10-10 07:57
well said russian roulette, very well said
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Borgie
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Joined: August 15, 2005
Posts: 2256
From: close by
| Posted: 2008-10-10 09:37
that could work russian. although i can already see how lower ranked players wouldn't want to fly a suport ship where they get little press and are a easy target from that luth dred
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BackAlley
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Joined: September 24, 2002
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From: Pittsburgh,Pa. USA
| Posted: 2008-10-10 09:37
Somebody said that a pinged vessel can get targeted....Not so, from what I have seen.....I have tried to target a pinged vessel quite a few times without success.....What pilots are doing is predicting the direction of the vessel and then using the control click weapons fire.....
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Gejaheline
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From: UGTO MUNIN HQ, Mars
| Posted: 2008-10-10 10:28
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On 2008-10-10 09:37, BackAlley wrote:
Somebody said that a pinged vessel can get targeted....Not so, from what I have seen.....I have tried to target a pinged vessel quite a few times without success.....What pilots are doing is predicting the direction of the vessel and then using the control click weapons fire.....
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If you're seriously quick, and you've already pinged them once so you know roughly where they are (or have your fingers on the "target nearest enemy" button, although having your hands on that, the P key, and your weapon keys may be physically impossible), you can just about target them, and possibly get a shot off. Usually easier to CTRL + target though, as you say.
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Russian Roulette with Muskets
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| Posted: 2008-10-10 10:33
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On 2008-10-10 09:37, Fatal Borgie wrote:
that could work russian. although i can already see how lower ranked players wouldn't want to fly a suport ship where they get little press and are a easy target from that luth dred
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if they ever bring back grouping ill share my combat pres with the nooble in return for his services.
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DragonSlayer*Sanctuary*
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From: dragonslayer83
| Posted: 2008-10-10 11:08
I was thinkin more of the lines of a Supply Station or something of that mannor since the SS is where people tend to let there guard down to get repairs. In most cases the station is suppost to be a safe place to reload and repair due to the fact of the stations senor range reaches far beyond any other ship in a factions fleet.
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Russian Roulette with Muskets
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| Posted: 2008-10-10 11:41
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On 2008-10-10 11:08, DragonSlayer*Recruiting* wrote:
I was thinkin more of the lines of a Supply Station or something of that mannor since the SS is where people tend to let there guard down to get repairs. In most cases the station is suppost to be a safe place to reload and repair due to the fact of the stations senor range reaches far beyond any other ship in a factions fleet.
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dont fix every job onto stations. thx.
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