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MrSparkle Marshal
Joined: August 13, 2001 Posts: 1912 From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2009-01-19 04:41  
Only problem is, what if I'm the only non-fleet online at the time? I cannot group?
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Meko Grand Admiral
Joined: March 03, 2004 Posts: 1956 From: Vancouver
| Posted: 2009-01-19 05:02  
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Valid concern. Also as was mentioned earlier, can you intentionally group. Say one non fleeted individual wishes to join myself and cohorts on a roam, can we invite them to our gang?
an alternite question as well: can you by choice ungang yourself.
now onto the new questions:
1: Is the shared pres stuff server by server? or does it transfer around the entire MV?
2: What about Idle people? when u said 'automatically' in the post, the first thing i though of was some midshipman going AFK in an ecm scout at a random location, only to return to the computer as a 2nd RA.
3: does this re-introduction of grouping include gang warp and formation flying?
4: Are you intending to add a hotlinked menu in a later patch for ease of UI use? ill explain what i mean. when in a gang, a minimizable window (say f8?) contains the name of everyone in your fleet with a clickable name. (click to select) that way people can say "Jump to me guys i need backup" or whatever and people dont need to A; sort through the crap in f2 screen, and B; wait for the f2 screen to update.
5: concerning missions, are they going to be NPC missions; ie go here, do that. or are they going to be a high ranking player assigning a mission for 'capture awaiad' and some other lower ranked guy accepting the mission, and thus getting the bonus pres?
5a: assuming the answer is NPC spawnable, how will they be levelled? its rather easy for a GA to cap a planet, but if a midshipman were to be assigned the same task, it would be a nightmare.
5b: assuming the answer is player spawnable, how are you going to ensure its unfarmable.
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MrSparkle Marshal
Joined: August 13, 2001 Posts: 1912 From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2009-01-19 05:06  
Yeah I have to say that there will be many times I won't want to group at all, and do not want to be forced to.
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Meko Grand Admiral
Joined: March 03, 2004 Posts: 1956 From: Vancouver
| Posted: 2009-01-19 05:33  
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^ This.
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Pegasus Grand Admiral Pitch Black
Joined: August 02, 2005 Posts: 434 From: Eleventh galaxy on the right!
| Posted: 2009-01-19 06:29  
Hope some sort of manual grouping will be available, i.e someone invites another and that initial person becomes group leader. This then can be used for fleet only grouping, or selective group for operations attacking or defending systems.
I'm sure more information will become available soon.
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Tael 2nd Rear Admiral Palestar
Joined: July 03, 2002 Posts: 3695 From: San Francisco Bay Area
| Posted: 2009-01-19 06:30  
Actually all non-fleeted people will automatically group together.
There are limits as to the exact number of people in each group.
There will be "range" limits to participate in a group and receive points.
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Meko Grand Admiral
Joined: March 03, 2004 Posts: 1956 From: Vancouver
| Posted: 2009-01-19 09:57  
@T dawg, wut about the rest of the questions??
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BackSlash Marshal Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003 Posts: 11183 From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2009-01-19 11:33  
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On 2009-01-19 05:02, Meko wrote:
1: Is the shared pres stuff server by server? or does it transfer around the entire MV?
There will be a proximity to which prestige is shared. Whether this is per server, or per system, we don't know, but it deffinately will not spread to the entire MV.
2: What about Idle people? when u said 'automatically' in the post, the first thing i though of was some midshipman going AFK in an ecm scout at a random location, only to return to the computer as a 2nd RA.
We're already talking about ways to prevent this.
3: does this re-introduction of grouping include gang warp and formation flying?
Grouping, currently, is only planned to share prestige. We have no plans to make a gang jump or formation flying (also, how do you pick who has control over these things - what if you don't want to?).
4: Are you intending to add a hotlinked menu in a later patch for ease of UI use? ill explain what i mean. when in a gang, a minimizable window (say f8?) contains the name of everyone in your fleet with a clickable name. (click to select) that way people can say "Jump to me guys i need backup" or whatever and people dont need to A; sort through the crap in f2 screen, and B; wait for the f2 screen to update.
A UI overhaul is slated at some point in the future. It's of importance to us, so it's not far down the list. At the moment, we'll probably be using the old grouping window to show all of this.
5: concerning missions, are they going to be NPC missions; ie go here, do that. or are they going to be a high ranking player assigning a mission for 'capture awaiad' and some other lower ranked guy accepting the mission, and thus getting the bonus pres?
It's unknown what type of missions will be available, and how, when we do impliment the system, but rest assured we'll have something for everyone.
5a: assuming the answer is NPC spawnable, how will they be levelled? its rather easy for a GA to cap a planet, but if a midshipman were to be assigned the same task, it would be a nightmare.
5b: assuming the answer is player spawnable, how are you going to ensure its unfarmable.
Whilst it may be easier for a FA to cap a planet, they also require more prestige to get to the next rank. There will be variance in the missions, ie, if you have to kill something, then the difficulty will be much higher for a higher ranked player.
Farmability is a valid concern, and we've already taken steps to stop the AI farming (or rather, lower the prestige from it). Most likely, if we see farming becoming an issue in missions, we'll do something about it.
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[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* on 2009-01-19 11:34 ]
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Little Pet Slinki Admiral
Joined: April 16, 2006 Posts: 836 From: United Kingdom, South West.
| Posted: 2009-01-19 11:43  
Not to gripe, but can we get a little more content in the way of ships, designs, new classes etc, so that fleets like this are viable in a very wide range of tactics, instead of the usual dreads and sups we have now.
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MrSparkle Marshal
Joined: August 13, 2001 Posts: 1912 From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2009-01-19 12:10  
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On 2009-01-19 11:33, BackSlash *Jack* wrote:
(also, how do you pick who has control over these things - what if you don't want to?).[/b]
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Well, what if I don't want to group with others? Am I gonna be able to leave this group I'm automatically in?
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Faustus Marshal Palestar
Joined: May 29, 2001 Posts: 2748 From: Austin, Texas
| Posted: 2009-01-19 13:53  
Groups are no longer going to be automatic... we are going to do them just like before, where players can form, join, and leave groups on their own.
So automatic grouping is nixed because of the reasons you guys have given...
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Leonide Grand Admiral Templar Knights
Joined: October 01, 2005 Posts: 1553 From: Newport News, Virginia
| Posted: 2009-01-19 14:03  
yay! were gonna be like normal MMO's now!
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Sixkiller Marshal Courageous Elite Commandos
Joined: May 11, 2005 Posts: 1786 From: Netherlands
| Posted: 2009-01-19 14:57  
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On 2009-01-19 13:53, Faustus wrote:
Groups are no longer going to be automatic... we are going to do them just like before, where players can form, join, and leave groups on their own.
So automatic grouping is nixed because of the reasons you guys have given...
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Hehe, hes a fleet admiral.
Poor guy got demoted in his own game
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deathblave Marshal
Joined: October 10, 2007 Posts: 268
| Posted: 2009-01-19 15:02  
he big f got to learn suns burn ur ship right? lol
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Eledore Massis [R33] Grand Admiral Templar Knights
Joined: May 26, 2002 Posts: 2694 From: tsohlacoLocalhost
| Posted: 2009-01-19 15:09  
Sounds fun, reminds me of the old days.
Just hope grouping could be a little more advanced this time. I'm hoping for something like a /group command (/group list), or some manageable GUI like some have suggested already.
O SNAP.. missions are coming back to. i so loved those buggers.
New if i can only find time to play the game, i haven't even got time to L-camp...
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