On 2010-05-01 21:35, James296 wrote:
how about finding each factions strengths and using them and preventing the other factions exploiting your factions weakness.

On 2010-05-01 21:59, Bardiche wrote:
Allow me to also point out "wait until ICC is overpowered" is a very, very bad strategy and very, very bad justification for UGTO to remain overpowered. It's also very, very bad to suggest that any one faction should be overpowered at any time until nerfs hit.

When ICC still had its super-range Ions, they sniped Stations from afar to take them down.

That's since become impossible.

Due to patended Station Stacking strategies, it's also not viable to use missilespam to chase off enemy Stations. Once UGTO pulls an Interdictor it becomes further impossible to do anything because it's over once you get jumped, and using an Interdictor to counter them close-jumping isn't as usable due to jumps usually entering around 600~ from the Interdictor, or even closer.

On 2010-05-01 22:50, Sardaukar wrote:
I know that proposing innovation in tactics is a bit anathema these days, but have you considered how gorram slow a station is? Combine this with their immense armor rings. I guarentee you, there will always be a situation where you can park some assault ships very close to a station and absolutely annihilate one armor arc while his allies are unable to shoot you- because it'd mean hitting him. Strike, kill, withdraw, reposition, repeat.

On 2010-05-02 00:01, Scarr wrote:
I would like to see stations in more of a defensive/support role.

I think probably the easiest way would be to remove the core weapons and replace the heavy beams with lights, and slightly increasing their armour. Leaves them still with good long-range ability and point defense, while being comparatively exposed in close combat.

On 2010-05-02 00:08, Kenny_Naboo wrote

But class limits would be easier to
implement, more fair to all, and no one can complain abt their fav ship getting nerfed.

On 2010-05-02 00:25, Nightsabre wrote:

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On 2010-05-02 00:08, Kenny_Naboo wrote But class limits would be easier to implement, more fair to all, and no one can complain abt their fav ship getting nerfed.

Heh I would have to disagree with no one complaining about their ship getting nerfed. I know for a fact that there would be whining that since they are of rank they should beable to use their fav ship. It will be worse than nerfing it since if you limit it to like only 5 of said ship then the rest cant even spawn it even if it is in their garadge. And bad idea when/if they have put alot of money into said ship. Btw if this makes no sence sorry I just got off of work and its late and I'm tired...

On 2010-05-02 00:31, Kenny_Naboo wrote:

You do have a point. But they can still use their dreads. And it's not as if those dreads are made of papier mâché...

These guys who own stations will definitely have dreads in their garages. It defeats the purpose of a fleet game if everyone flies only the heavies. That's why class limita are needed to balance the game out from a fleet vs fleet perspective.

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On 2010-05-02 01:09, Nightsabre wrote:

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On 2010-05-02 00:31, Kenny_Naboo wrote: You do have a point. But they can still use their dreads. And it's not as if those dreads are made of papier mâché... These guys who own stations will definitely have dreads in their garages. It defeats the purpose of a fleet game if everyone flies only the heavies. That's why class limita are needed to balance the game out from a fleet vs fleet perspective. [ This Message was edited by: Kenny_Naboo on 2010-05-02 00:33 ]

But what I'm thinking about is UGTO I see alot on alot so lets say you limit stations to 5 they probably will limit dreads too, to like 10 or something then they have to use something smaller. Thats going to cause alot of people to rage quit/complain if they cant ever get their station or dread out that they spent $20 on because there are too many players. I know id be mad if i spent $20 bucks on a game and the developers told me I could not play it.