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Joined: March 23, 2003
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|  Posted: 2010-05-13 07:28
QST doesn't have pwnzor splash anymore (sadface!).
We are looking into the range enhancements not affecting core weapons however.
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Sens [R33]
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| Posted: 2010-05-13 08:36
A krill with range enhancements is no more powerful up front that a stock krill. Just because a player adopts a certain playstyle doesn't mean you can't counter it.
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Zero28
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Joined: August 25, 2006
Posts: 591
| Posted: 2010-05-13 08:40
Figures, he never complained before when he could use them, but ever since he resetted his account, he cry's "Core wep nerf"
Any smaller ships should easily dodge core weapons as it is, if you get hit by a core weap, its a sign your either to close to a dread, or yur flying in a straight line
if i have 1 thing to say about core weap is "Put more IC on the CD!!!!!!"
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xplosiv
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Joined: October 10, 2007
Posts: 43
| Posted: 2010-05-13 10:48
The solution here is simple, just switch the speed of the regular torp with the core weapon and vice versa
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Katejina
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Galactic Navy
Joined: February 13, 2010
Posts: 73
From: katejina
| Posted: 2010-05-13 17:46
This is a horrible idea if anything the core weapons should be buffed hopefully back to ship popping status =P (and not have 20 of them on the krill =\ )
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Starcommander
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Joined: December 14, 2005
Posts: 579
From: In your base, stealing your cookies
| Posted: 2010-05-13 22:18
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On 2010-05-13 01:47, Lonectzn wrote:
Are still too good.
I know they've gone through a couple nerfs, but that has been changed by the sheer number of them that go around and the enhancements available. Look at the krill - with range enhancements it becomes a cloaking long range sniper far outperforming missiles. And in general they really don't have any disadvantages over torps.
Ideally I would drop their speed massively. I'm talking slower than AM torpedoes. This would not change their use against large slow ships, by render them useless against anything small and quick, even at close range. It just makes no sense to have these things own everything.
I should say I'm biased, I always thought they were a terrible idea that basically became a cheap and lazy catch-all weapon. I'd still like to be rid of them altogether.
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Lark of Serenity
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| Posted: 2010-05-13 22:51
my understanding was their major drawback was energy consumption. although i would tend to agree theyre a bit too effective against smaller ships/groups of smaller ships.
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Aeraesoria
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Synchronicity
Joined: October 25, 2007
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From: Aeraesoria
| Posted: 2010-05-14 05:50
LAWLS Star that is freaking funny xD
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Starcommander
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From: In your base, stealing your cookies
| Posted: 2010-05-14 05:59
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On 2010-05-14 05:50, Aeraesoria wrote:
LAWLS Star that is freaking funny xD
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its gonna be my answer to most whine posts now.
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Azreal
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Joined: March 14, 2004
Posts: 2816
From: United State of Texas, Houston
| Posted: 2010-05-14 06:01
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On 2010-05-13 08:36, Sens, Shigernafy's Sentinel wrote:
A krill with range enhancements is no more powerful up front that a stock krill. Just because a player adopts a certain playstyle doesn't mean you can't counter it.
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Aradrox
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Joined: March 12, 2007
Posts: 133
From: Tennessee
| Posted: 2010-05-14 06:12
i want to see a mini ion cannon for a scout i dont care if it does the dmg of ONE fusion torps i just think it would be fun as heck to fly around in a scout pretending to be bad LOL
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Joined: March 23, 2003
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From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2010-05-14 11:37
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On 2010-05-13 08:36, Sens, Shigernafy's Sentinel wrote:
A krill with range enhancements is no more powerful up front that a stock krill. Just because a player adopts a certain playstyle doesn't mean you can't counter it.
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I'd like to remind K'luth players that whilst this is true, remember that K'luth are designed to be, and always have been in the passed, a short range, hit and run faction. This breaks the mould in a rather large way and we're finding people moving towards just flying this type of config more often.
I'd love an EAD with AHR, or cloak. Hell I'd love an AD with flux wave. I can't though, they're designed to be used on their factions, not on others. This is where the issue with the Krill comes from. It's a long range ship on a faction that is not supposed to have them. It can deal VASTLY large amounts of damage to an enemy ship at a range its not supposed to.
Try and remember these things when making your replies. Regardless on whether it's a viable strategy, balanced, or otherwise; the ship should not be on a faction designed for close range hit and run.
It will be fixed at some point. Think of it less as a nerf, more of a correction.
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Lithium
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| Posted: 2010-05-14 12:31
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On 2010-05-14 11:37, BackSlash wrote:
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On 2010-05-13 08:36, Sens, Shigernafy's Sentinel wrote:
A krill with range enhancements is no more powerful up front that a stock krill. Just because a player adopts a certain playstyle doesn't mean you can't counter it.
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I'd like to remind K'luth players that whilst this is true, remember that K'luth are designed to be, and always have been in the passed, a short range, hit and run faction. This breaks the mould in a rather large way and we're finding people moving towards just flying this type of config more often.
I'd love an EAD with AHR, or cloak. Hell I'd love an AD with flux wave. I can't though, they're designed to be used on their factions, not on others. This is where the issue with the Krill comes from. It's a long range ship on a faction that is not supposed to have them. It can deal VASTLY large amounts of damage to an enemy ship at a range its not supposed to.
Try and remember these things when making your replies. Regardless on whether it's a viable strategy, balanced, or otherwise; the ship should not be on a faction designed for close range hit and run.
It will be fixed at some point. Think of it less as a nerf, more of a correction.
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Please remove krill, ganglia and range enhancements from the game. They're really confusing the players.
And also ICC Assault Dread should be removed from the game. It's too strong close range ship for long range faction ICC.
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From: Clean room lab
| Posted: 2010-05-14 12:52
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On 2010-05-14 12:31, Lithium wrote:
Please remove krill, ganglia and range enhancements from the game. They're really confusing the players.
And also ICC Assault Dread should be removed from the game. It's too strong close range ship for long range faction ICC.
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I totaly agree with JAck (miracles happen) about krill. Yes ,Kluth meant to be close range faction. But what I dont agree on why it is always kluth to be balanced towards other factions. Like you say , AD is very powerful ship as a kluth mandy or siphon at close range. The problem is , giving ranged weapons to those ships doesnt mean you cant use them in close combat. Then again , ganglia is the most weird ship given to kluth to fly. Also agree on range enhancement to be removed. It will only unbalance the game about ranges and better for the server which doesnt need to track every partical in the game more than what it supposes to.
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NoBoDx
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Joined: October 14, 2003
Posts: 784
From: Germany / NRW
| Posted: 2010-05-14 13:32
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On 2010-05-14 12:31, Lithium wrote:
Please remove krill, ganglia and range enhancements from the game. They're really confusing the players.
And also ICC Assault Dread should be removed from the game. It's too strong close range ship for long range faction ICC.
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why not remove all ships > scouts ?
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