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Tenebrean Grand Admiral
Joined: November 19, 2007 Posts: 14
| Posted: 2010-08-14 12:23  
Namor no offence but you make as much sense as a rooster barking >.>
WH's are objects visually see able and usable by everyone , i don't see how you could think something as that. It takes the thrill and strategy of a WH away.
Besides my QQing there at his idea this is absolutley an unnecesary topic. WH's are fine as long as they don't bug >.<
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Lark of Serenity Grand Admiral Raven Warriors
Joined: June 02, 2002 Posts: 2516
| Posted: 2010-08-14 12:59  
funnily enough he posted this right after i followed his hive through a WH with my line station and killed him.
but anyways
wormholes are wormholes. it doesnt matter how you make it, its a wormhole. that is, its a hole, in space, that objects can pass through. there is no way in any kind of theory to make the wormhole discriminate about whats going through, and the WH is not a faction limited technology: all 3 factions have them. even if they didnt, itd still be a wormhole and anyone could use it.
if you made WHs faction only, and limited to 1 faction, theyd be ridiculously OP.
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Light-of-Aurora Grand Admiral
Joined: December 01, 2003 Posts: 602 From: NJ, USA
| Posted: 2010-08-14 13:05  
I guess I'll try my hand at clearing what seems to be a misunderstanding since this thread is at the top anyway..
Wormholes are the result of each faction's technology. Here's an analogy: say we're two warring, separated countries. I want to get to you, so I spend an enormous amount of resources and research to build a massive tunnel. The tunnel opens up in your territory, and my forces go through it. However, they all die. Wouldn't you be free to use that tunnel to enter my territory? Or would you stop yourself, thinking, "Wow, I couldn't possibly make a tunnel that big, so there's no way I can use it."
Regardless of whether or not I used a giant drill, mini-nuclear explosions, or hundreds of laborers with shovels to make that tunnel, a tunnel is a tunnel. Understanding the technology behind its creation isn't required in order to use it.
Wormholes, for all gameplay purposes, are tunnels in space. I guess we're working off the idea that all of the factions know the concept of a 'wormhole,' just like our two countries know what a tunnel through the ground is, which shouldn't be too far fetched since these factions are starfaring.
TLDR; I don't like this idea either...
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*Obsidian Shadow* Grand Admiral
Joined: January 03, 2010 Posts: 316
| Posted: 2010-08-14 17:43  
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On 2010-08-14 13:05, Light-of-Aurora wrote:
I guess I'll try my hand at clearing what seems to be a misunderstanding since this thread is at the top anyway..
Wormholes are the result of each faction's technology. Here's an analogy: say we're two warring, separated countries. I want to get to you, so I spend an enormous amount of resources and research to build a massive tunnel. The tunnel opens up in your territory, and my forces go through it. However, they all die. Wouldn't you be free to use that tunnel to enter my territory? Or would you stop yourself, thinking, "Wow, I couldn't possibly make a tunnel that big, so there's no way I can use it."
Regardless of whether or not I used a giant drill, mini-nuclear explosions, or hundreds of laborers with shovels to make that tunnel, a tunnel is a tunnel. Understanding the technology behind its creation isn't required in order to use it.
Wormholes, for all gameplay purposes, are tunnels in space. I guess we're working off the idea that all of the factions know the concept of a 'wormhole,' just like our two countries know what a tunnel through the ground is, which shouldn't be too far fetched since these factions are starfaring.
TLDR; I don't like this idea either...
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well put LOA..... well put....
and this is just another post trying to ruin the current dynamics of the game when will people ever learn???
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Katejina Grand Admiral Galactic Navy
Joined: February 13, 2010 Posts: 73 From: katejina
| Posted: 2010-08-15 00:10  
Ok prove how only one faction can use a Wormhole, Tell me how a WH device works and what keeps someone else from using a WH you create. Once you can tell me those things people may listen...
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Kenny_Naboo Marshal Pitch Black
Joined: January 11, 2010 Posts: 3823 From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-08-15 01:25  
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On 2010-08-14 12:59, N'kra The Wolf wrote:
funnily enough he posted this right after i followed his hive through a WH with my line station and killed him.
but anyways
wormholes are wormholes. it doesnt matter how you make it, its a wormhole. that is, its a hole, in space, that objects can pass through. there is no way in any kind of theory to make the wormhole discriminate about whats going through, and the WH is not a faction limited technology: all 3 factions have them. even if they didnt, itd still be a wormhole and anyone could use it.
if you made WHs faction only, and limited to 1 faction, theyd be ridiculously OP.
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He's upset cos you managed to followed him as he tried to escape and killed him. Much like the Kluth dread that ambushed you after you escaped and killed your damaged dread.
It's an emotional thang... so bear with him ok?
You've been there. I'm sure you can understand his grief.
Just ribbin' you. [ This Message was edited by: Kenny_Naboo on 2010-08-15 01:34 ]
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Lark of Serenity Grand Admiral Raven Warriors
Joined: June 02, 2002 Posts: 2516
| Posted: 2010-08-15 12:10  
if he WHd to a 5 planet cluster i wouldve died =P
also a protip: dont set your WH to within sight of the person youre trying to escape
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Rebellion Marshal Faster than Light
Joined: June 20, 2009 Posts: 730 From: sol
| Posted: 2010-08-15 14:01  
If anything make it so only the faction that creates the wormhole will be able to see it on map unless the WH was made or is in sensor range of other factions, also make it so that if it was created and went to deep space other factions could only see the entrance (witch was in range of sensors) but not ware it comes out.
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MrSparkle Marshal
Joined: August 13, 2001 Posts: 1912 From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2010-08-15 14:07  
WHs need to be more accurate, not just usable by the creator's faction. I don't mean pinpoint accuracy, but accurate enough that if you WH to a friendly planet to escape you should emerge reasonably close to that planet, not 2k or more away.
How many people ever see stations opening WHs for their fleets to engage the enemy? How many would do it if they were more accurate?
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SaturnShadow™ *FC*(Angel Of Darkness) Marshal *Renegade Space Marines*
Joined: February 03, 2007 Posts: 310 From: UK
| Posted: 2010-08-15 18:31  
ok now i could be wrong about this but lets say hyperthetically that all factions over time found out to artficaly create a worm hole now if im correct a worm hole drive is VERY VERY big and only certian ships can use them but ALL stations can due to their size.
Gates now i could be wrong but the only natural worm holes are the gates u see connecting systems to systems.
now artifical worm hole are made by ripping a hole thru space to a different place in space and then that worm hole if found by other people could use that worm hole to travel to the other end of that worm hole now normally you could get confused so in laymans terms think of a worm hole just like a rainbow.
now i am very sorry but how IN SAMS DAISY CHAINS would you fix a worm hole drive on a SCOUT them drives are huge and take a huge amount of power more than what a puny scout can generate also to fit a wh drive on to one u would need it to be sticking out of it like a muscle cars supercharger and then u would only have about 3 weapons if that.
to create a wh you dont need tec u need shed loads of energy just to rip the hole for travel and then it only stays open for a short time.
thank you for your time reading this please correct me if i am wrong as i aint no genius
SaturnShadow
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Katejina Grand Admiral Galactic Navy
Joined: February 13, 2010 Posts: 73 From: katejina
| Posted: 2010-08-15 18:44  
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On 2010-08-15 18:31, SaturnShadow™ *FC*(Angel Of Darkness) wrote:
ok now i could be wrong about this but lets say hyperthetically that all factions over time found out to artficaly create a worm hole now if im correct a worm hole drive is VERY VERY big and only certian ships can use them but ALL stations can due to their size.
Gates now i could be wrong but the only natural worm holes are the gates u see connecting systems to systems.
now artifical worm hole are made by ripping a hole thru space to a different place in space and then that worm hole if found by other people could use that worm hole to travel to the other end of that worm hole now normally you could get confused so in laymans terms think of a worm hole just like a rainbow.
now i am very sorry but how IN SAMS DAISY CHAINS would you fix a worm hole drive on a SCOUT them drives are huge and take a huge amount of power more than what a puny scout can generate also to fit a wh drive on to one u would need it to be sticking out of it like a muscle cars supercharger and then u would only have about 3 weapons if that.
to create a wh you dont need tec u need shed loads of energy just to rip the hole for travel and then it only stays open for a short time.
thank you for your time reading this please correct me if i am wrong as i aint no genius
SaturnShadow
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Your pretty off their try re-reading everything more carefully
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