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[suggestion] K'luth energy |
Panduh
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|  Posted: 2011-07-26 00:49
For K'luth energy issues...How about a device limited to certain types of ships, that does:
for any energy or psionic (yes, psionic) weapon, beam, projectile, or otherwise, that hits armor or hull (or maybe just armor or maybe just hull), the k'luth ship gains a small amount of energy.
also, a device that works like a drone bay except it transfers energy from the host ship to the targetted ship. Utility supply ships unite!
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-Shadowalker-™
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From: Shadows
| Posted: 2011-07-26 03:59
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On 2011-07-26 00:49, Panduh wrote:
... beam ... , that hits armor or hull (or maybe just armor or maybe just hull), the k'luth ship gains a small amount of energy.
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elf beam, already in there
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2011-07-26 06:49
Energy drain is definitely a tad high for Kluth weaps.
Needs to be tweaked down slightly and tested again.
Right now I run out of energy before I get hulled badly to run. ie. I e-jump out because I've run out of energy, and not because of damage! And that's in an MV where weaps damage has been significantly increase! 
I wasn't even using alphas. I was timing my shots between weap types to maintain a continuous stream.
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Gejaheline
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| Posted: 2011-07-26 07:20
I don't suppose that anyone's considered that K'luth's damage-dealing abilities are hideously front-loaded, and that they run out of energy quickly because they're meant to deal huge amounts of damage very quickly (which costs lots of energy) and then fall back to recharge?
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Lockerd
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| Posted: 2011-07-26 07:45
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On 2011-07-26 07:20, Gejaheline wrote:
I don't suppose that anyone's considered that K'luth's damage-dealing abilities are hideously front-loaded, and that they run out of energy quickly because they're meant to deal huge amounts of damage very quickly (which costs lots of energy) and then fall back to recharge?
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I considered it and I adapted to it.
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NoBoDx
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From: Germany / NRW
| Posted: 2011-07-26 08:16
who need energy, when everyone else is dead already ? 
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Panduh
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| Posted: 2011-07-26 09:34
I wasn't very clear in my post, I meant that K'luth ships gain energy when hit by certain things or something.
But I'll agree, that's uneccessary.
However, what about ship to ship energy transfers (between same-faction ships, obviously)?
[ This Message was edited by: Panduh on 2011-07-26 09:35 ]
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2011-07-26 12:22
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On 2011-07-26 07:20, Gejaheline wrote:
I don't suppose that anyone's considered that K'luth's damage-dealing abilities are hideously front-loaded, and that they run out of energy quickly because they're meant to deal huge amounts of damage very quickly (which costs lots of energy) and then fall back to recharge?
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Everyone's damage dealing abilities have gone up. All beams do more hurt now. I'm using my weaps the same way before the patch, and I run out of energy way before that.
What's the point of doing more damage if you run out of batts much much earlier?
Eg. I previously dealt 12 pts of damage per shot, but i could fire 10 times. Now I can do 15 dmg per shot, but I can only shoot 6 times.
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NoBoDx
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From: Germany / NRW
| Posted: 2011-07-26 12:32
bigger batteries coulkd help
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Talien
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From: Michigan
| Posted: 2011-07-26 12:33
From my own tests in beta I'd have to agree, kluth energy management vs damage done is worse now than it was before overall. Cannons can fire pretty much forever without running you dry as long as you're not going full speed, but SI and beams are much less efficient.
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On 2011-07-26 03:59, -Shadowalker-™ wrote:
elf beam, already in there
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ELF are useless, try them yourself and see.
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Princess Celestia
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From: The Crystal Empire.
| Posted: 2011-07-26 12:55
when in combat the ELF beams will not even gain energy because your disruptors eat it up as quickly as you can steal it and generate it. and yes energy transfer is already there if you fire ELF beams at a freindly you still gain energy also if its dred and above it wount lose energy
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Veronw
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| Posted: 2011-07-26 13:44
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Everyone's damage dealing abilities have gone up. All beams do more hurt now. I'm using my weaps the same way before the patch, and I run out of energy way before that.
What's the point of doing more damage if you run out of batts much much earlier?
Eg. I previously dealt 12 pts of damage per shot, but i could fire 10 times. Now I can do 15 dmg per shot, but I can only shoot 6 times.
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If kluth gained a larger energy pool they would be able to stay in combat longer, no? Seeing as kluth, from what i have seen, consists solely of krills, that can one shot dreads, I dont see any problems what so ever with kluth having massive energy isuses. Its a nice tradeoff.
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Kenny_Naboo
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| Posted: 2011-07-26 14:42
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On 2011-07-26 13:44, Veronw wrote:
If kluth gained a larger energy pool they would be able to stay in combat longer, no? Seeing as kluth, from what i have seen, consists solely of krills, that can one shot dreads, I dont see any problems what so ever with kluth having massive energy isuses. Its a nice tradeoff.
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Negative.
Krills currently can't finish the job if the other dread is shooting back. In fact, I've found that I run out of energy faster than I run out of hull, even when moderating fire.
SIs first. (range), then cannons. I use the beams sparsely.
We know that core weap drain has gone up. Anyway, the Krill isn't so much the issue. I usually keep at med range and space out my shots.
It's the Siphon that's the problem. An assault dread that can't keep up the assault. It's almost pointless, really. The Mandi is a better all around ship now.
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Azure Prower
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| Posted: 2011-07-26 16:41
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On 2011-07-26 12:33, Talien wrote:
ELF are useless, try them yourself and see.
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I agree with this statement. Want to trade the ELFs for an extra aux on my siphon please.
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Infernal Torment
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| Posted: 2011-07-26 18:16
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On 2011-07-26 14:42, Kenny_Naboo[+R] wrote:
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On 2011-07-26 13:44, Veronw wrote:
If kluth gained a larger energy pool they would be able to stay in combat longer, no? Seeing as kluth, from what i have seen, consists solely of krills, that can one shot dreads, I dont see any problems what so ever with kluth having massive energy isuses. Its a nice tradeoff.
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Negative.
Krills currently can't finish the job if the other dread is shooting back. In fact, I've found that I run out of energy faster than I run out of hull, even when moderating fire.
SIs first. (range), then cannons. I use the beams sparsely.
We know that core weap drain has gone up. Anyway, the Krill isn't so much the issue. I usually keep at med range and space out my shots.
It's the Siphon that's the problem. An assault dread that can't keep up the assault. It's almost pointless, really. The Mandi is a better all around ship now.
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Ya gonna have to disagree with u there Kenny, krills can definately finish the job unless they are outnumbered 3 to 1. I have been on the receiving end of 8 SIs and it aint anything to b laughing at.
[ This Message was edited by: Infernal Torment on 2011-07-26 18:17 ]
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