On 2011-09-21 18:24, Gejaheline wrote:
In my opinion, making the ship a marshal-rank ship would not particularly solve the issue where the krill is/was a) wildly out of character for the K'luth in the eyes of the developers (a super-battleship on a faction where the main focus is on close combat) and b) A wildly out of character superdread when the other two factions do not also possess wildly out of character superdreads.

Point a:
Each faction has two superdreads. One is an assault dreadnaught (siphon/EAD/AD), the other is a command dread. Superdreads get extra armour, hitpoints, and weapons and other devices.

K'luth have/had an extra superdreadnaught. No other faction has a third superdread. Presumably this is because K'luth are so focused on superdreads that they need a special one to show off what they're really good at.

And yet the Krill is not some kind of ultra-stealthy ultimate beam-weapon ship, instead apparently being some kind of turbo-charged battle dreadnaught which doesn't really fit in with the general K'luth philosophy of having hard-hitting close-range ships.

Thus, the question here is "why does the Krill go so much against its faction's design principles? Surely a superdread should be designed to play to the faction's strengths?"
These questions are not answered by promoting it to a marshal ship.

Point b:

UGTO do not have a super-missile-dread, because their combat tactics do not revolve around missile weapons and thus they would not put lots of time and effort into designing a superdread for the exclusive purpose of engaging in missile combat.

Similarly, ICC don't have a super-beam-dread armed with nothing but beam weapons, because they don't particularly subscribe to the concept of very close-range combat.

So this poses a question that covers the issue from the other direction: If the K'luth have a ship that is so out-of-character, why don't the other factions have one?

Again, this is not answered by making it a marshal ship.

On 2011-09-21 18:41, jimjim578 wrote:

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On 2011-09-21 18:24, Gejaheline wrote: So this poses a question that covers the issue from the other direction: If the K'luth have a ship that is so out-of-character, why don't the other factions have one?

you do have a point there, but good questions, why dont they?

On 2011-09-21 18:24, Gejaheline wrote:

1-K'luth have/had an extra superdreadnaught. No other faction has a third superdread.

2-So this poses a question that covers the issue from the other direction: If the K'luth have a ship that is so out-of-character, why don't the other factions have one?

On 2011-09-21 22:24, Kenny_Naboo[+R] wrote:
I'd rather move the stations up to M and CM rank.

Command stations, Battle stations (and their equiv classes) - M rank
Support stations- CM rank.

That's cos SS's are inherently more useful (and dangerous to the enemy)


U want an end to station spam, this will do it. Now we won't see 2-bit or half-witted FAs flying stations.





[ This Message was edited by: Kenny_Naboo[+R] on 2011-09-21 22:25 ]

On 2011-09-21 17:27, Kakashi Hatake wrote:
what about the idea to put krill on marshal rank and give it back its old weapons setup before the nerf of the 4 Si core guns?
[ This Message was edited by: Kakashi Hatake on 2011-09-21 17:30 ]

On 2011-09-22 00:13, Pakhos[+R] wrote:

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On 2011-09-21 18:24, Gejaheline wrote: 1-K'luth have/had an extra superdreadnaught. No other faction has a third superdread. 2-So this poses a question that covers the issue from the other direction: If the K'luth have a ship that is so out-of-character, why don't the other factions have one?

1- And 2 other factions can fly dreads at rank of VA. Kluth can't.

2-You must be out of your mind. Best close combat ship in this game is EAD. So by your logic , ugto shouldnt have the EAD as it is.


Be honest, you guys suck at balancing.