On 2012-03-25 05:48, Fluttershy wrote:
It just feels like everything is too far apart on the scale.

What small ships lack in armor and hull, they supposedly make up for in speed, maneuverability, and jump drive recharge.
But there's a problem.
Point jumps, Dictors, and Beams all counteract those benefits.

Beams are incredibly OP, they nuke small ships in half an alpha.
Even a cruiser can't sustain an alpha from a siphon and get out without hull damage, even if they spread it out over 2 arcs of armor. ONE ALPHA!
2nd alpha will undoubtedly kill them.

On 2012-03-25 05:48, Fluttershy wrote:

I'm getting tired of having our supports blown up left and right by cowardly little hit and run attacks. Seriously, make supply ships able to tank some hits, increase their size, and slap some armor on those things, they're worth 100 prestige if you die in one, so having them lead a binary existence like they are is complete BS.

On 2012-03-25 08:13, Gejaheline wrote:
Kenny: Having thought about that one, I'd go for the dead-sized supply ship because fighting to survive in a slow ship is better than already being dead in a small supply ship thanks to the first volley.

On 2012-03-25 08:13, Gejaheline wrote:

As for the topic of being outnumbered, I actually agree with Brutality; smaller ships are fantastic at surviving massive dreadswarms when flown correctly.

Last night someone was complaining something along the lines of "Wow, an assault dread against a dessie has about as much effect as scouts fighting an EAD."
This is missing the point. Dreadnaughts and their massive amounts of firepower are useless if you can't hit the target and a small, jinky destroyer at a distance is rarely going to be hit. UGTO destroyers have the added advantage that they can fit reflective armour to resist the occasional beam and ion cannon hit, leaving gauss cannons as their primary vulnerability.

If you're being steamrolled by superior numbers what you should NOT do is try to slug it out in dreads. Take some smaller ships, single out one enemy ship, and pick away at it until it dies or runs away and then move onto the next one. If they're capturing your planets they're going to be slowed down significantly if their ships keep having to withdraw.

And I've complained about the fact that beams and point-jumping are super-powerful, but at the same time... You're in a destroyer or a cruiser. It's possible to survive a couple of hits (I've been alpha'd once or twice and lived, even with -16% defences) and even if you die or get heavily damaged it's not particularly devastating and you can get back into the fight in moments.

On 2012-03-25 21:47, Fluttershy wrote:
the original topic was just me throwing a fit because some players get to fly tactically significant ships, while other players are just little pain in the butts.

and no, your 8 blue enhanced cruisers don't count, because newbies are more than likely to be in a stock ship with the possibility of a few minor enhancements.

On 2012-03-25 21:47, Fluttershy wrote:

And then, as was stated, is that supports, such as engineers and supply ships, are incredibly vulnerable.
And why? Why should non combat ships be sitting ducks?
Supply ships take the resources of a destroyer, but have the durability of a frigate.

I would very much be in favor of a supply ship that's tough enough to withstand an attack and call for support. Right now they're just a complete joke.
Look at them, they got one shotted by a kluth dessie.
The guy who was flying supply for us got pissed off and hopped in a cruiser instead.

On 2012-03-26 06:59, Fluttershy wrote:
You don't have to aim, you just slow to 0, press J, and mash the space bar.

It's 2 clicks short of a INSTANT WIN BUTTON

On 2012-03-26 15:43, Furiosity wrote:
pj range is alrdy randomized by 50gu...just a stat is a big target

On 2012-03-26 09:14, Brutality *XO2* wrote:

Its not like every single dread in the game can one shot stuff dude. The assault ships are the only ones capable of doing this. now because of the weapon nerf and focus on slow moving torps and ion cannons rather than a ton of beams,it takes more than one salvo to kill stuff as a smaller ship can move to dodge the torps. The same cannot be said for the siphon which has lots of dps but energy issues to keep it in check. The Ead is the king of the battlefield point blank because of it has the highest DPS alpha of any dread in the game which is fine because it maneuvers very slowly. The missile ships, while powerful like an SS, have a hard time hitting moving targets. The only time I'm able to one shot a supply is if its sitting stationary and makes no attempt to move. As soon as the target starts to move, anything under a dread is hard to hit. Hope some of this makes sense. As to latency, depending on my isp's load I get around 100-300 ping. While its hard to jump out in a scout if you aren't on your toes, anything destroyer hullsized or larger I can always can escape. Whats your average latency?

Why are you even bothering to explain things to him??

He just wants the game made easier for his current rank.

Once he gets to GA or Marshal, he'll once again want the game tailored the other way.... beams powered up to one shot the sun!

On 2012-03-26 07:32, Toby D Syded wrote:

Quote:

On 2012-03-26 06:59, Fluttershy wrote: You don't have to aim, you just slow to 0, press J, and mash the space bar. It's 2 clicks short of a INSTANT WIN BUTTON

ill give it to you on that one...

suggestion :- devices cannot be activated or deactivated while in jump
suggestion :- devices cannot be activated 5 seconds after jump aborts/completes.

+1 to nerfing pointjump
+1 to nerfing immediate cloaking after jump
+1 to fluttershy for grasping the main issue at hand
[ This Message was edited by: Toby D Syded on 2012-03-26 07:33 ]