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SpaceAdmiral
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|  Posted: 2012-09-26 20:09
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On 2012-09-26 19:36, Pantheon wrote:
The current EAD model in beta IS the Harbinger model.
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Well, if you reference back to LoA's original thread, the current model seems to be the Executor:
http://www.darkspace.net/index.htm?module=forums.php&page=/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=49179&forum=134&start=0
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Pantheon
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| Posted: 2012-09-26 20:11
It's named Harbinger in both LoA's and Kenny's files, so I think LoA may have had the names mixed up in the images. Either way, the the one intended to be the EAD is the EAD.
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Lark of Serenity
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| Posted: 2012-09-26 20:36
How to get everyone into beta: pretty new ships to look at.
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Kenny_Naboo
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Joined: January 11, 2010
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2012-09-26 22:46
Actually, the UGTO dread is the Executor. LoA only managed to pass me his Executor dread.
The Harbinger, I didn't manage to get. I wished I did though.
And yes, the ICC dread is getting a redesign on the rear section. I found it ugly too.  Thanks for the honest feedback. I need those.
I'll be merging the existing M400 engines and arches/outriggers into the ICC dread design. This will make it evolutionary.
I've already merged the meshes, and am in the process of cleaning them out now before beginning texture work.
Again, I know there're some artists out there amongst you (Azreal, YIMMM, Veron, to name a few) who are creative and have modelling knowledge. Contribute to the pool please. And of course, if you can't model but can draw good concept sketches, do put them up in fan art.
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Hyperforce
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From: Perth, WA
| Posted: 2012-09-26 23:55
very impressed with EAD it looks spectacular and the assault dreads seems to be missing something.
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Whiterin
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Joined: November 15, 2007
Posts: 146
| Posted: 2012-09-27 02:26
Alright. So, a few things I found on trying the models:
- The AD needs to have the classic ICC antenna that you find on most of the ships, just isn't ICC without it!
- There is like, a thing on the front of the AD. Looks kinda like an open door... it needs to go.
- The light from the engines bleeds through the sides of the ships.
- The center engine could move up a bit.
- As mentioned before, the weapons fire from just random spots, or sometimes just open air and need to be changed to reflect the new models.
- Not sure I am a fan of the new EAD. Some of the models on that page linked before had a UGTO dread that had some of the armor things kinda flaired out, I really liked that one.
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SpaceAdmiral
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| Posted: 2012-09-27 03:31
Some additional feedback:
Although ICC does indeed have subtle curves, they do need their trademark angular faces. I think the new model is slightly too curvy/bubbly, but other than that it looks great for an AD: Hyper Agressive and Bulky. Looks great on its own, but merge it with a fleet and it might look slightly out of place. Then again, the current MDs and CCs are also out of place, but that's because they stem from an older era where UGTO and ICC had similar ship design.
Again, I feel that the executor is more suited for Command, it looks too fragile and not aggressive enough to be a battering ram. It lacks the bulk, unlike the ICC AD model. The Command Dread is semi aggressive, but it also stays back with utility, and this model seems perfect for this as it looks like it can hold its own, but not against something like the current ICC AD. Also, the small gap in the rear between engine and upper body can by for mines .
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*Flash*
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| Posted: 2012-09-27 04:52
Looking forward to see more of yours designs in game. Good job so far and thank you for youre effort!
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Code Red
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| Posted: 2012-09-27 04:54
Yes to mirror what Flash said , love the work so far and long may it continue and thanks for putting these in.
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The Fridge
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| Posted: 2012-09-27 04:56
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On 2012-09-27 02:26, Whiterin wrote:
- There is like, a thing on the front of the AD. Looks kinda like an open door... it needs to go.
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No that's the laser battery!
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Whiterin
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| Posted: 2012-09-27 04:58
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On 2012-09-27 04:56, The Fridge wrote:
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On 2012-09-27 02:26, Whiterin wrote:
- There is like, a thing on the front of the AD. Looks kinda like an open door... it needs to go.
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No that's the laser battery!
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It looks out of place there... They should remove that and add antennas on the flat spots on the front of the ship.
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Flux Capacitor
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From: the place
| Posted: 2012-09-27 05:08
the new EAD looks bulky yet smooth. good mix. the 3 rear -how to describe them- streched armor wings, look weird if u look from behind from an angle. the long middle wing seems to be going to the right wing when u look from the left, instead of it going trough the middle between the 2 outer wings.
also it has hamstercheecks, right behind the front emblem. That is also the place where there seems to be an opening between the main hull, and the added bridge (oval shaped bulky face of the ship), if u look from top.
also ship has 4 engines in gadgets, but seems to have only 3 in texture model.
finally: the ship looks awesome!
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Zero28
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| Posted: 2012-09-27 14:08
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On 2012-09-27 05:08, -domedi- wrote:
also ship has 4 engines in gadgets, but seems to have only 3 in texture model.
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think of the 4th engine as the smaller ones around the main 3 
beside the current EAD looked like it only had 1 main engine XD
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2012-09-27 14:34
Some sneaks. Untextured for now, while I work out the mesh.
Expect the redesigned ICC AD to look like an uprated M-400.
This is to be in line with the ICC's principle of using a standard hull type and then adding modules or modifying it to suit the intended role.
Also... to get rid of that fat rear end, and the weird tri-engine configuration. I still think the M-400 is a great design. This hull type can be designated the M-450 or M-500.
[ This Message was edited by: Kenny_Naboo[+R] on 2012-09-27 14:35 ]
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-DBS
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| Posted: 2012-09-27 15:39
That AD looks cool I cant wait to shoot at it and the EAD
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