On 2013-01-28 20:56, Kenny_Naboo wrote:

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On 2013-01-28 20:08, Fluttershy wrote: I haven't been playing DS because this is one of the few games where you get demoted for dying, and I just can't play the game and relax, because the threat of loss constantly looming over me is just too much to bare. I just don't really find it fun, because you end up getting interdicted and chewed up and lose prestige that took a long time to accumulate (At least for me)

Well there's always Pacman....

On 2013-01-28 20:08, Fluttershy wrote:
I haven't been playing DS because this is one of the few games where you get demoted for dying, and I just can't play the game and relax, because the threat of loss constantly looming over me is just too much to bare.

I just don't really find it fun, because you end up getting interdicted and chewed up and lose prestige that took a long time to accumulate (At least for me)


And as for more players... Well, half my friends just uninstalled it because they planet dived 10 times and had no idea what was going on, or they didn't play it at all because the game looked like garbage, and put your little minnow in a tank of sharks.

On 2013-01-29 09:35, Talien wrote:

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On 2013-01-28 20:08, Fluttershy wrote: I haven't been playing DS because this is one of the few games where you get demoted for dying, and I just can't play the game and relax, because the threat of loss constantly looming over me is just too much to bare. I just don't really find it fun, because you end up getting interdicted and chewed up and lose prestige that took a long time to accumulate (At least for me) And as for more players... Well, half my friends just uninstalled it because they planet dived 10 times and had no idea what was going on, or they didn't play it at all because the game looked like garbage, and put your little minnow in a tank of sharks.

What ships do you fly? If you find you die too much, try using something smaller and learn how to make the most of it, then apply what you learned to larger ships and you'll find you die less.

On 2013-01-29 09:35, Talien wrote:

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On 2013-01-28 20:08, Fluttershy wrote: I haven't been playing DS because this is one of the few games where you get demoted for dying, and I just can't play the game and relax, because the threat of loss constantly looming over me is just too much to bare. I just don't really find it fun, because you end up getting interdicted and chewed up and lose prestige that took a long time to accumulate (At least for me) And as for more players... Well, half my friends just uninstalled it because they planet dived 10 times and had no idea what was going on, or they didn't play it at all because the game looked like garbage, and put your little minnow in a tank of sharks.

What ships do you fly? If you find you die too much, try using something smaller and learn how to make the most of it, then apply what you learned to larger ships and you'll find you die less.

On 2013-01-29 14:31, Fluttershy wrote:

I normally fly destroyers and cruisers, even though I have the rank to use an Assault Dread.
One of the big things that really kills me in this game is lag. I can respond to a point-jump before they even disengage and have time to open fire, but I end up dying or taking severe damage several seconds later.
I don't lag that badly on other games, so idk what the deal is with this one, I guess the point-jump mechanic is just really unfavorable to someone with suboptimal packet delay.

And I usually play K'luth so I can pick my fights and be completely certain that I am not visible.

On 2013-01-29 15:30, Talien wrote:

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On 2013-01-29 14:31, Fluttershy wrote: I normally fly destroyers and cruisers, even though I have the rank to use an Assault Dread. One of the big things that really kills me in this game is lag. I can respond to a point-jump before they even disengage and have time to open fire, but I end up dying or taking severe damage several seconds later. I don't lag that badly on other games, so idk what the deal is with this one, I guess the point-jump mechanic is just really unfavorable to someone with suboptimal packet delay. And I usually play K'luth so I can pick my fights and be completely certain that I am not visible.

That happens to most of us actually, someone will get point jumped, then e-jump, then die or take damage after a few seconds while they're mid jump. I jumped with a full armor/shield Cruiser after a Siphon decloaked behind me and started taking damage, then exited the jump almost 10 seconds later and was still taking damage.

On 2013-01-29 16:38, Pantheon wrote:

10 seconds is very uncommon. You'd have to have an effective latency of 10,000 ms for that to be the case. We update damage every 2 seconds, but movement is always update as soon as the data is available.

If you send a movement packet to the server (we send lots of these very very very often - we literally spam the server with them), it will not move your ship until your connection has sent a packet successfully. Once the server receives the command though, it doesn't matter if another player is still shooting at you on their screen due to their latency. The server will dismiss all the damage because the starting point of that damage from the player, and the contact point on the players screen does not collide with the ship on the server.

The game deals purely in coordinates. In terms of beams its start and end point, and in terms of projectiles, its where that projectile is. Even if a high ping player see's a projectile hit your ship, the server won't, and as a result, won't send damage your ship. Put simply - there is nothing for that projectile or beam to collide with. The enemy will see you taking damage, then jump away at 0% hull, even though you may have jumped away a few milliseconds or indeed seconds ago.

Anyway, I'm getting off point:

You only take damage if the server knows you take damage. The server never lags in terms of bandwidth - we have so much it's ridiculous. The only case where you will take damage after you have jumped is because you are lagging. The game is designed to feel as if you have 0 lag, but if you live a jazillion miles away from the server or have a crappy connection - in reality you will not be where you think you are, and that ship that you 'just' saw jump you, may have been there for some time depending on how badly you are lagging.

There's nothing we can do about this - if we could fix the internet, we'd be millionaires.

On 2013-01-29 19:13, Fleet Admiral Shark wrote:
I'm currently making some Darkspace ship replicas in 3ds max. But my model making skills are terrible. But im getting better and better every time i make them.

I plan on making a cinematic trailer for darkspace using the models i created. If someone could donate thier models to me (kenny) *cough* maybe I can get this trailer up before summer. I go to sleep everynight thinking of a cool story line to be used in these trailers and such. Anyway. Thats an update from Fleet Admiral Sharky

On 2013-01-29 16:38, Pantheon wrote:
The game is designed to feel as if you have 0 lag, but if you live a jazillion miles away from the server or have a crappy connection - in reality you will not be where you think you are, and that ship that you 'just' saw jump you, may have been there for some time depending on how badly you are lagging.

There's nothing we can do about this - if we could fix the internet, we'd be millionaires.

On 2013-01-30 21:49, chlorophyll wrote:

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On 2013-01-29 16:38, Pantheon wrote: The game is designed to feel as if you have 0 lag, but if you live a jazillion miles away from the server or have a crappy connection - in reality you will not be where you think you are, and that ship that you 'just' saw jump you, may have been there for some time depending on how badly you are lagging. There's nothing we can do about this - if we could fix the internet, we'd be millionaires.

There are 2 things involving in this kind of lag: internet connection and PC's performance.

My internet connection hasn't changed. But there were time when I found my latency had been over 10 000ms. After Fautus disabled something (the shadow or shader) and game ran smoothly again, I had learned that my latency was actually caused by video progressing.

I also played other local MMO on 2 computers - one fast one slow, I recognized video progress was the main reason of lag.

You can't do anything with your ISP, they don't control international bandwidth. But you can set your configuration to a lower graphic level and hope that's the easiest way to solve the lag.

In my own case, after disable every video feature and play in window mode, the game is quite fine with me. Note that I download from DS at 1xx kb/s and that's enough to survive and kill. I have no graphics card, and has been using Pen 4, but I encouter very few trouble with this game. That facts is to say this game is friendly to most PC. The game only froze when I was among dozen ships and hundreds of missles/fighters. If only I was able to turn off smart noun tracking on client side, I would have no problem at all to play this game.

What you should do is to suspect your AV/firewall/security suite.