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 Author NA Moderator Meeting Transcript 2002-03-12
Selvarian {IMC}
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Joined: August 18, 2001
Posts: 1242
From: GA, USA
Posted: 2002-03-13 00:16   
* EVENT: 'NA Region Staff Meeting' event is starting now...
03:55:50 [PS]Selvarian: "OK... Let's get this thing on the road"
04:00:37 [-[A]-]|2eason: "?"
04:00:39 SpaceCase: "ok"
04:00:44 [-[A]-]|2eason: "and what ship where you in?"
04:00:44 Smokey: "hehe"
04:00:44 SpaceCase: "whats an emote agin?"
04:00:46 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "everyone quiet now please"
04:00:48 [PS]nimby: "ORDER"
04:00:51 [-[A]-]|2eason: "talk later, ok red?"
04:00:54 SpaceCase: "ok"
04:00:56 SpaceCase: "im quiet"
04:01:04 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "shushhhhhhhhhhhhh"
04:01:13 SpaceCase: "..."
04:01:34 [Evil]Evil Bob: "all non moderators are asked to remain quiet during the meeting."
04:01:44 SpaceCase: "ok"
* [PS]-mac- has entered the room...
03:57:19 [PS]Selvarian: "Here's the topics I have for us tonight:
1) 1.4 status
2) Mod behavior.
3) Chat room rules / etiquette.
4) New RoC items are highlighted.
5) New site status."
03:57:37 [PS]Selvarian: "Do we have any last-minute additions to the list?"
04:02:48 [DI]NovaM: "at the end I've an addition"
* Gideon whispered "The cross faction ships? The determination should be known to all."
03:58:17 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. what is it and I will add it to the list."
04:03:07 [.Di.]Quiic: "No new mod selection?"
* [-GTN-]Lith Ragond whispered "i was wondering about a list of all moderators, i think it should be posted so people can see who is one, cause the stupid bug with the shirt makes it confusing"
04:03:53 [DI]NovaM: "Bug/Exploit addition/revamp"
03:59:28 [PS]Selvarian: "Not at this meeting, Quiic. We will be setting the next one at the next admin meeting"
* [-GTN-]Demorian has entered the room...
04:05:04 [-GTN-]Demorian: "just stopping by"
04:00:22 [PS]Selvarian: "The next selectiion/vote meeting, that is."
04:00:55 [PS]Selvarian: "OK, that is a good point to start off with.. Samweis and I had the first admin meeting this past Sunday"
04:01:28 [PS]Selvarian: "We are now having them once a week so we can coordinate the regions so we won't get out of sync on things, like mod selection, for instance."
04:02:21 [PS]Selvarian: "The event description sums up their purpose and the way they basically will work."
04:03:02 [PS]Selvarian: "Any questions about the admin meetings?"
04:08:01 Gideon: "Are they open for public observation?"
04:08:02 SpaceCase: "yes"
04:08:07 SpaceCase: "how long will this one last?"
04:08:39 [Evil]Evil Bob: "space, if you can't remain quiet, you will be asked to leave. "
04:08:43 Smokey: "brb i got to reboot..."
04:04:00 [PS]Selvarian: "That will be set at the beginning of each meeting. They may be closed or open, depending on the discussion"
04:09:14 Gideon: "how will we know if they are closed?"
04:09:17 [.Di.]Wolver: "even closed for mods?"
04:04:39 [PS]Selvarian: "Yes, players please direct all comments/questions to the chair (me) in whispers. Thanks!"
04:09:32 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Space, or anyone else from the peanut gallary, /whisper Selvarian with your questions..."
04:04:51 [PS]Selvarian: "IN some cases, maybe"
* Gideon whispered "how will we know if they are closed?"
* SpaceCase whispered "how long will it last?"
04:05:19 [PS]Selvarian: "The format and decorum will be announced at the beginning of the meeting."
04:05:41 [PS]Selvarian: "hopefully admin meetings will be shorter than the regular mod meetings."
04:06:12 [PS]Selvarian: "Depends on how much crap has rolled uphill."
04:11:05 Gideon: "May I suggest that the name of the meeting room reflect it's open/closed status?"
04:06:18 [PS]Selvarian: ":O)"
04:11:10 [-GTN-]Demorian: "going poof again. *poof*"
04:06:48 [PS]Selvarian: "If it is to be initially closed, that may work."
04:07:09 [PS]Selvarian: "Otherwise, we will simply use /broadcasts to let everyone know."
04:12:03 Smokey: "back"
04:12:09 Gideon: "Roger."
* SpaceCase whispered "so i see.....but arnt you going to give me an unexact ammount of time for this meeting dealy?"
04:08:16 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Next item. I want to move up the discussion of 1.4 for nimby so he can leave if he needs to."
* [DOH-OF]DarkWanderer whispered "It seems you have many questions coming to you in whispers, what bothers me is that the replies are seeming one sided without knowing what the question was."
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "Meetings, in general, last until we are done with the topics. There is no set length to them."
04:13:43 Taelron: "1 last comment why not add a way to lock room during the rewrite of gcql to fix the mod bug"
* [DI]NovaM whispered "/me applauds, quietly so no one is disturbed ;-)"
* SpaceCase whispered "ok..."
04:14:14 Gideon: "The question I have. Will there be a more stable version soon so that I can test it?"
04:09:34 [PS]Selvarian: "That among other changes to the lobby."
* [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky whispered "may i publicly discuss in this, for i have beta tested in there multiple times"
* [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky whispered "and i can answer some of these questions"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "I understand. However, I have to put them into context. They will still be available in the transcript for all to see and read later."
04:10:49 [PS]Selvarian: "Do we want to open the floor for everyone to comment and ask questions?"
04:10:54 [PS]Selvarian: "Regarding 1.4?"
04:15:59 [PS]nimby: "Sure"
04:16:08 Gideon: "Did my question get through, my ISP is being strange."
* SpaceCase whispered "you want to open the floor for a minimum ammount of comments at all time dont you???"
04:11:36 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Everyone try to keep it to a slow, even pace, though."
04:16:25 [.Di.]Wolver: "yes gideon"
04:16:39 [PS]nimby: "@Gideon regarding a more stable beta version?"
04:16:59 Gideon: "Well one I can actually pick a ship in, yeah."
04:17:06 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "a more stable version"
04:17:11 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "Yes, currently its much more stable"
04:17:22 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "will there be any new gadgets in 1.4? it wasnt on faus list, i dont think"
04:17:23 [.Di.]Wolver: "will ALL kluth ships be outfitted with ELF or just certain ships?"
04:17:28 [PS]nimby: "And we are talking about the Beta servers and 1.4 or is this just a general comment?"
04:17:38 Gideon: "Beta and 1.4"
04:17:39 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "however, the bug where once u finish playing the beta server ur game goes corrupt is still there"
04:17:45 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "however, a certain fix to this bug is to join GCQL"
04:17:48 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "and press the download button"
04:17:56 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "however, NOT RECOMENDED WITH 56K USERS"
04:13:13 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, I think I would like to keep it to imminent issues with the beta."
04:18:11 [PS]nimby: "there will be new gadgets that research labs will open for you in 1,4"
04:18:11 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "Wolver: Certain ships"
04:18:12 Gideon: "yeah, that's not the bug, Red."
04:18:15 [Evil]Evil Bob: "only ceratin ships Wolver, 1 from each class, dest, cruiser, and dread."
04:18:18 SpaceCase: "i agree with fang.....bug fixes for the HOLE game should be common..."
04:18:31 Gideon: "I posted it in the Beta forums, not going to repeat here."
04:18:40 [PS]nimby: "ELF's won't be on every K'luth ship, however most of the new ones have them..."
04:18:43 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "The VERY advanced supply also has a ELF"
04:19:05 [PS]nimby: "ELFs will be tested on the beta servers and may be changed or elimanated before 1.4 goes to release"
04:19:08 [TWP]Ramius: "what about balancing issues concerning the ELF and ICC shielding?"
04:19:30 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "I think ICC should have two kinds of shielding, light shields and heavy shields"
04:19:36 [PS]nimby: "Beta servers are not for the faint hearted, if you just wnat to play the game stick to the regular servers"
04:19:37 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "like the UGTO has light and heavy armor"
04:19:39 SpaceCase: "the kluth are weak so....an icc ship could kill them if the kluth wernt slick enuf"
04:19:41 [-GTN-]SkyLander: "will you make the combat dread more effective in 1.4?"
04:20:00 [TWP]Ramius: "yes, i agree with sky."
04:20:03 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "Nimby, i think overall torpedoes need a boostup"
04:20:13 SpaceCase: "me too"
04:20:16 SpaceCase: "there really weak"
04:15:31 [PS]Selvarian: "I'd dearly love to see a lot of people in the beta, testing it with a Jupiter-sized cattle prod, but it WILL be very frustrating at times."
04:20:21 [Evil]Evil Bob: "last warning to non moderators, please refrain from making general comments during the meeting"
04:20:26 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "because cannons can do more damage if a single shot (or in this case 5 shots) can do more damage than a single torpedo shot"
04:20:29 [PS]nimby: "Bug fixes for the whole game are common...but when we are developing a bunch of new stuff we have to hold off on other fixes until the new code is up to par"
04:15:52 [PS]Selvarian: "Bob, the floor is open to the discusstion"
04:20:56 [-[A]-]AgentGerbil.: "rofl"
04:21:03 Gideon: "I just want to test...period..."
04:21:03 SpaceCase: "hehe"
04:21:05 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "lol"
04:21:06 SpaceCase: "ya bob"
04:16:19 [PS]Selvarian: "..for the moment."
04:21:09 SpaceCase: "the floor is open"
04:21:12 [PS]nimby: "Elf and ICC shielding goes to what I said before, the Elf devices will be tested on beta and if needed changes will be mad"
04:21:12 [.Di.]yule_shiva: "is any effort being made to address the compatibility issues with rage ati cards? since a lot of ppl have problems with them"
04:21:13 SpaceCase: "=)"
04:21:36 [TWP]Ramius: "right now combat dread is a watered down missile dread."
04:21:38 SpaceCase: "were abusing our comment making privlage! cut down on the sugjestions!"
04:21:42 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "agreed"
04:17:04 [PS]Selvarian: "Please, folks. Let's stay on-topic. Send any/all new topics to me in a whisper, please."
04:21:49 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Please dont remind me of that dreaded ATI, !!!"
04:21:51 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
04:22:03 [PS]nimby: "eIn my opinion the cannon damage should be lessened a bit, not torps made stronger"
04:22:04 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "i piloted Combat dreads in prerelease"
04:22:08 SpaceCase: "were talking about the new patch right?"
04:22:10 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "and i have found that most of their arament was missiles"
04:22:22 SpaceCase: "hehe"
04:22:24 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "Also, i am against the Kluth changes"
04:22:36 SpaceCase: "some kluth changes would be good fang"
04:22:39 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "Kluth weapons are much weaker"
04:22:50 [-GTN-]SkyLander: "Its just the combat dread doesn't add a hole lot anymore when you have the missile dread its just a missile dread with more armor and less weapons and it doesn't compeat with the battle dread"
04:22:52 [PS]nimby: "As always all ships are always under scrutiny to make sure that they are balanced, if a certian ship needs modification we will take care of it"
04:22:53 [-[A]-]AgentGerbil.: "i want the combat dread to have rail guns like the battle dread has cannons..."
04:23:00 [TWP]Ramius: "yes, they have less missiles and just a little heavier armor, need more short range weapons."
04:18:26 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Besides the obvious balance issues, is anyone having any specific issues with the beta code that haven't been addressed."
04:23:13 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "which i disagree, if i remember, kluth is the uber agressive race, which means they should have the STRONGEST weapons, yet their AM torps and Disruptors dont work nearly as well as their ICC/UGTO counterparts"
04:23:15 [.Di.]Quiic: " also what about guys who self d before you can kill them"
04:23:28 [DI]NovaM: "The only change I'd like to see is the reload time on PSI Cannons lowered..."
04:23:28 SpaceCase: "how much weaker are the kluth weapons?"
04:23:29 [-GTN-]SkyLander: "but i will stop talking now since it doesn't really pertain to the current topic"
04:23:36 [PS]nimby: "So far we don't have the resources to test the rage cards, we will do so as soon as we can (anyone wanna donate one to me? I will install and test it)"
04:23:38 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "for no reason"
04:23:40 Gideon: "No"
04:23:42 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "the beta occasionally crashes on my comp"
04:19:18 [PS]Selvarian: "If I have one in my card pile, Nimby, I'll send it to you."
04:24:08 [TWP]Red "The Fang" Kerensky: "well, i gtg"
04:24:08 Taelron: "which model rage? I have like 8 vid cards here sitting gathering dust"
04:24:09 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Maybe nimby....."
04:24:20 [TWP]Ramius: "i seem to have a problem researching, is it disabled for now?"
04:24:30 [PS]nimby: "Self D means they lose pres, and you still gained all that you got from damagin them"
04:24:32 SpaceCase: "sometimes when i die...the camera view stays there and i gota self destruct....is this fixed in 1.4?"
04:24:45 [.Di.]Quiic: " i know but kill ratio"
04:24:55 [-GTN-]NeoViper: "hehe"
* [DOH-OF]DarkWanderer whispered "Bring it up how you may, but I am concerned with those on dial-ups (including myself), having access to the beta. Yes it is accessable but at the costt of red'ling both versions whenever you log or get disconnected."
04:25:12 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "it doesnt effect your prestige, they also get Kamikazi points for it, so its not an exploit... am i right?"
04:25:25 [PS]nimby: "I just fixed research times in the tool, when the next beta upload is in they will be fixed"
04:25:41 [TWP]Ramius: "thx nimby =)"
04:25:59 [-[A]-]AgentGerbil.: "speaking of kamikazi... anyone remember the old supply bug =)"
04:21:17 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Let's rein in the discussion for now. We've got a bunch more items we need to get to here before it gets too late."
04:26:10 [PS]nimby: "@spacecase, I did not know that this was happening, please post on the forum so we can chjeck into it and fix it"
04:26:20 SpaceCase: "ok"
04:26:28 SpaceCase: "i was wondering when someone was going to answer"
04:26:37 [PS]nimby: "Self D, they get Kami points if they damage you"
04:22:02 [PS]Selvarian: "If you have any more issues with 1.4, PLEASE post them in the beta forum."
04:22:26 [PS]Selvarian: "The other forums are there for released code, ie 1.3"
04:22:39 [PS]Selvarian: "This helps us keep our sanity."
04:23:53 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Quick point: all recent changes to the RoC are highlighted in magenta, so keep an eye out for them when you check it occasionally."
04:24:10 [PS]Selvarian: "I will usually leave them up for a few weeks."
* [{BSS}]Torquemada whispered "Off Topic: When do you make your selection for new MODS and are there any openings at current?"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "We will be setting the next voting/ selection date at the next admin meeting"
* SpaceCase whispered "What is the next subject?"
04:25:23 [PS]Selvarian: "Next.. a topic that I know we all are surely going to love... staff behavior issues."
04:25:45 [PS]Selvarian: "I think our recent scorecard is a little on the low side."
* [{BSS}]Torquemada whispered "And that would be 3/17/2002 correct?"
* SpaceCase whispered "can we talk during this subject?"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "yep"
04:30:45 Taelron: "woo woo"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "No, please send all items to me in a whisper."
04:31:16 [-[A]-]|2eason: "That is bad Taelron....I think....."
* [{BSS}]Torquemada whispered "Oh yes PS Samweis wanted me to set up with you a meeting about this all 3 of use could speak about this. Would that be a problem?"
04:31:36 [DI]NovaM: "I'm guilty, I admit it."
* SpaceCase whispered "I was talking about comments for the subject....those arnt aloud now?"
04:31:42 Gideon: "How can we increase our representation?"
04:27:02 [PS]Selvarian: "I think everyone is a little on edge over many different things right now, but we really need to take a step back when things start to get out of hand and try to keep it in perspective."
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "negative."
04:32:30 [PS]nimby: "I would like to add my two cents here..."
* SpaceCase whispered "can i send my sugjestions to you by wisper or do you want me to stfu?"
04:27:49 [PS]Selvarian: "Please do, sir."
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "Please send them to me, yes. Thanks!"
04:33:14 [PS]nimby: "Always remember that it is easier to catch flies with honey than with ****"
04:33:24 [PS]nimby: "in other words"
04:33:54 [PS]nimby: "use the calm tactful approach, don't even mention bans or kicks unless things get out of hand"
04:34:02 [PS]nimby: "those are last resort measures"
* SpaceCase whispered "Ok...Torque thought that if a mod suddenly turned bad and none of the otehr staff new about it, they would start kicking people from servers when they got mad.....he thought that mods need 2 accounts for playing and one for patrolling forrums or patrolling chats"
04:34:20 [PS]nimby: "I have never had to ban or kick anyone"
04:34:44 [PS]nimby: "That is my main point"
04:30:39 [PS]Selvarian: "What I want to say is: I don't think we need to rehash the specifics, however, one thing I want to emphasize: we should NOT, EVER AGAIN, argue with other staff members in public."
04:35:51 [DI]NovaM: "here here"
04:35:58 [PS]-mac-: "May I?"
04:36:00 [-[A]-]|2eason: "That is a major point right there Selv...."
04:36:02 [PS]nimby: "AMEN"
* Taelron nods at [PS]Selvarian...
04:31:20 [PS]Selvarian: "We are also talking with the EU admins and working with them to get some of their mods to cool it as well."
04:36:36 [DI]NovaM: "I accidentally kicked a player running the False Playnet.com server yesterday, though, I wasn't the one who banned them."
04:32:24 [PS]Selvarian: "Reason, you made a post about how the chat room gets so out of hand, would you mind expounding on it a bit here?"
04:37:25 [DI]NovaM: "Well, accidentally, isn't the right word."
04:37:25 Taelron: "Faustus explained the ban in the dev forum so no need to go over it again."
04:32:56 [PS]Selvarian: "Yes, that issue has been addressed."
04:38:42 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Well, one thing leads to another, but, I just have a comment to issue to the players, If you see an administrator/moderator doing their job, STAY OUT OF IT PLEASE! Thank you, and if you have a problem with it, that is what the Moderator Feedback forum is for"
04:38:47 [-[A]-]|2eason: ";)"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "There is already a plan in the works to resolve that situation. Check out some of the previous meeting transcripts; it has been discussed before and will be addressed soon."
04:39:42 [PS]nimby: "That would be good in a fantasy reality, but you have to be able to deal with the fact that other players WILL make comments and get into it"
* SpaceCase whispered "i disagree with reson.....we should be able to put in our two cents..we are the comunity after all"
04:35:24 [PS]Selvarian: "Even if they seem to be in the wrong, you may not be privy to all of the facts, and the chat room gets out of control with all of the waves of emotion over the situation"
04:40:20 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "my suggestion is ignore them, unless they can give light onto the topic, correct me if i am wrong"
04:40:21 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Well, it is going downhill lately, with the whole * thing nimby...."
* SpaceCase whispered "i agree with nimby"
04:40:29 Taelron: "*cough* /mute *cough*"
04:40:58 [PS]nimby: "you really have to be ready to explain why you did what you did...that is why I am on favor of trying the peacefull approach, less emotion"
04:41:12 [PS]nimby: "Well here is an example..."
04:41:20 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Yes, this is how I handle it...."
04:41:40 [-[A]-]|2eason: "However, I was trying to help a fellow moderator out...."
04:41:50 blackjack72: "I find the chat rooms to be quite nice and refreshing.and though i've only been playing a short time chat seem's kinda mellow."
04:41:56 [-[A]-]|2eason: "and tried to calm them down after they got into a moderators duties...."
04:37:24 [PS]Selvarian: "True enough, nimby, but there are times when things get out of hand to a point where no amount of "asking nicely" will do anything."
04:42:26 [DI]NovaM: "If I may add in my 2 cents..."
04:42:38 [PS]nimby: "I was in the lobby the other night and lauange started to get a bit out of hand...I just explained that I wanted everyone to tone it down as their might be childrens mothers watching who have nothing better to do than file a lawsuit against us...everyone understood and backed off..."
04:43:16 [PS]nimby: "I am fully aware that people behave differently around me than they do around y'all"
04:43:29 [DI]NovaM: "When you do get an interuption, don't treat it as such, other's input is often valuable in making descisions...this is a community of players, we all have different ideas and values, and the people making comments are part of it, if someone wants to get involved, and they aren't badgering, let them speak, if you let them give input, they generally let sleeping dogs lie afterwards..."
04:43:33 [-[A]-]|2eason: "alot nimby, ;)"
04:43:39 [Evil]Evil Bob: "admin vs moderator, age old issue"
04:43:45 Gideon: "On Moderator behaivior. We should watch it in the post boards, as well. Particularly when a player makes an angry post in the Moderator Feedback area."
04:39:47 [PS]Selvarian: "There are those whose sole existence in the chat room revolves around testing where the limits are with each mod AND admin."
04:44:31 [PS]nimby: "FYI, that is why I have a lose reign on MODs I assume that you are all well behaved adults and so far I have not been proven wrong...on the whole :)"
04:45:17 [PS]nimby: "and it is a mods job to let them test without crossing the line"
04:45:34 [DI]NovaM: "Yes, but they're easy to sort out, and if you remain calm, they difuse themselves Selv..."
04:45:35 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "who could that be Selv? :)"
04:45:52 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Nova, where where you on Sunday? heh"
04:46:07 [DI]NovaM: "Prolly..."
04:46:12 [PS]nimby: "heh, kinda off topic for a sec..."
04:41:33 [PS]Selvarian: "Yep, that's right. The problem is they are looking for the line so they can ride it as often as possible, which means you have to keep a dedicated eye on that person constantly."
04:46:48 [PS]nimby: "my biggest problem is whisper spam from people who have the best ideas and have found out the most urgent gameplay issue :)"
04:42:09 [PS]Selvarian: "Heh."
04:47:06 Smokey: ":O)"
04:47:06 [PS]-mac-: ":)"
04:47:11 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
04:42:33 [PS]Selvarian: "Now THAT is just something you're gonna hafta live with as a Dev, nimby"
04:47:32 [PS]nimby: ":0"
* Taelron whispers: is he talking about me?
04:48:03 Taelron: "=)"
04:44:04 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Anyway. One last point about the chat room language: PLEASE avail yourselves of the RoC section regarding the chat room language."
04:49:28 [Evil]Evil Bob: "my favorite people are those who know where the line is drawn, and cross it anyway knowing they have a few warnings coming before action is supposed to be taken..."
04:45:00 [PS]Selvarian: "Also, in addition to the /mute command, I think the chatroom filter needs to either automatically turn off for staff, or it needs to be toggleable for staff."
04:50:05 [Evil]Evil Bob: "..thereby getting away with improper behavior until staff action will be taken."
04:50:07 [PS]nimby: "you can put them on "probation" then they are permanantly on last warning"
04:50:44 [-[A]-]|2eason: "I have some names to put on that list nimby......."
04:50:51 Smokey: "probation needs to be added to the RoC then..."
04:46:07 [PS]Selvarian: "Also, I want everyone to realize that the "Ten Step" program is NOT carved in stone."
04:51:02 [DI]NovaM: "Yes, I dare say the filter caused a nasty argument the other night, we as Mods, shouldn't be Filtered...be is a downloadable patch for us, or a full update to the existing code"
04:47:26 [PS]Selvarian: "If a mod feels that the situation warrants advancement directly to punishment, that is his/her prerogative, only answerable to us."
04:47:54 [PS]Selvarian: "("us" being the admins and the quorum of moderators)"
04:52:46 Gideon: "That would have to be pretty seriouse, I would think..."
04:48:59 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, we have a forum for listing our "problem children". For now, it works fine as the list seems to be pretty small."
04:50:15 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. So we are all in agreement about the behavioral issues?"
04:55:17 [.Di.]Wolver: "yup yup"
04:55:20 [-[A]-]|2eason: "I am....."
04:55:20 [PS]-mac-: "yes"
04:55:30 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "yesum"
04:55:30 [PS]nimby: "aye"
04:55:32 [DI]NovaM: "Aye"
04:55:35 Gideon: "Yessir"
04:55:46 [Evil]Evil Bob: "no changes there"
04:55:50 Smokey: "ya"
04:51:19 [PS]Selvarian: "If not, the time to say something is now, or later in the PMF. mac and I are getting out our Buford Pusser sticks for the future."
* [PS]-mac- grins
04:56:29 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
04:56:47 [.Di.]Wolver: "i don't know what that is....but it don't sounds good :P"
04:57:09 [PS]nimby: "we call her tender flower...and when I see wht you have done to this beuatifull child..."
04:52:34 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Next item. There was a question posed earlier about players who carry a ship from one faction into another."
04:57:30 [PS]nimby: "All my peaceful teachings go out the window"
* SpaceCase whispered "can i make comments during this subject?"
04:58:03 [PS]nimby: "How is this happening?"
04:58:04 [Evil]Evil Bob: "upon switching factions, MV stats for that player should be reset"
04:58:16 Gideon: "All stats?"
04:53:50 [PS]Selvarian: "When a player switches clans/factions, they still keep their current ship, nimby"
04:58:42 [Evil]Evil Bob: "the MV ship stats are kept when the player switches factions, so they have a kluth ship while they're on UGTO or ICC and vice versa"
04:59:24 Gideon: "Right, but your statement indicated a possible wipe of all of that players stats, including prestege."
04:59:43 [PS]nimby: "that is whack in my opinion, let me take a note here, I will speak to F and get this changed, they should be forced to get a ship that belongs to their faction...anyone disagree?"
04:59:45 Gideon: "Was that your intent?"
04:55:02 [PS]Selvarian: "Just MV stats, Gid"
* SpaceCase whispered "that wouldent be good at all!"
05:00:00 [Evil]Evil Bob: "nope, MV stats are seperate from the players profile, one is merely ship data, the other is the player's history."
04:55:16 [PS]Selvarian: "IE, anything specific to the MetaVerse only"
05:00:10 Gideon: "I am good with however you guys want to do it."
05:00:20 Gideon: "Just want an official word on it."
05:00:23 [.Di.]Wolver: "is this only dealing with clans who switch factions? or is this happening with non-clan players switching factions also?"
05:00:26 [PS]-mac-: "no argument here, nimby"
05:00:53 [PS]nimby: "It is not what I ever intended"
05:01:19 Gideon: "There is a minor exploit here, too. I did switch to ICC a while back (pre1.3) by elimitaing my clan and remaking them on the ICC team. That may need looking into."
05:01:23 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I have seen clan members leave their clans and get ships from another faction, then offload the parts they want, then rejoin their clans."
04:56:59 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, given that the ships cost credits in 1.4 (ie, REAL credits, not rubber bongs), if they switch factions, their ship is liquidated."
05:01:51 [.Di.]Wolver: "mmm....yikes Bob...that's bad"
05:02:33 Gideon: "I have seen the same as Bob."
05:03:08 [Evil]Evil Bob: "1.4 will reduce that greatly, but it will continue to happen with the guys that can afford it..."
05:03:48 [Evil]Evil Bob: "what we really need is a mandatory time limit for switching factions and/or clans to make it even that much more difficult to do."
05:04:25 Gideon: "So, the question still stands. Is cross-faction shipping somthing that PaleStar wants the mods to intervene in when they see it? It sounds like yes."
05:04:27 [PS]nimby: "I think a ship wipe is good enough"
05:04:44 Taelron: "i agree with a timelimit, like 24 hours"
05:00:26 [PS]Selvarian: "ie, what Gideon is asking is if it should be made an official exploit (right, Gid?)"
05:05:31 [Evil]Evil Bob: "nimby, the ship wipe is only part of it, I've seen guys unload parts before actually rejoining the clan/faction, seen an ICC dread in Kluth space unloading items near the kluth JG."
05:05:34 Gideon: "i agree with Nimby. Ship wiping would eliminate the need to enforce a time limit."
05:05:34 [PS]nimby: "as long as it is still something that we need to fix it is a bug, it is our problem, discourage people from doing it, however it is really up to us to fix it"
05:05:38 Gideon: "Yes that is my question."
* SpaceCase whispered "i dont agree with a time limit......what if a newbie comes in and pays for an account...he joins this team and says...i dont like it and he wants to change teams and it wont let him....what will he think then?"
05:06:30 [PS]nimby: "Well, thay wil think twice about offloading gadgets when 1.4 hits them, they will have to pay dearly"
05:06:35 Gideon: "If it isn't, then we, as moderators, have no real power to step in and prevent it. Which is fine if that is what you intend."
05:06:48 Taelron: "a wipe alone wont detere it, the time limit is needed"
05:02:05 [PS]Selvarian: "SpaceCase posted: "i dont agree with a time limit......what if a newbie comes in and pays for an account...he joins this team and says...i dont like it and he wants to change teams and it wont let him....what will he think then?" "
05:07:14 Taelron: "the time limit will also detere switching sides to change a planet then switching back to cap it"
05:07:20 [PS]-mac-: "If it's something that's destroying gameplay or unfairly tipping the balance, then maybe we should look into making it an official exploit until fixed?"
05:07:32 Gideon: "If this is to be concidered an exploit, then players need to be let know the status of it and not be surprised with it. Iw. it should be made official."
05:07:51 Gideon: "Iw=Ie"
05:08:08 [PS]nimby: "In my opinion you can only make a suggestion in this case, we will have to fix it...discourage it at all costs, however it is a part of the game and we need to fix it, players should not have to suffer because of a design flaw, they might be lame, nut that is a different story"
* SpaceCase whispered "was it good for you to have posted it publicly or bad?"
05:08:42 Gideon: "@Taelron, you mean the bomb everything to death, capture, recapture, rebuild cheese?"
05:08:45 [Evil]Evil Bob: "so they wait a day to switch sides, no big deal, this is the MV we're talking about, they can play in the other servers until they can join the faction they want. This does not limit which side they can join in the scenario servers."
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "It's fine by me. Some questions I will repost."
05:09:35 Gideon: "OK, then a suggestion, and it isn't part of the official exploits. I understand."
05:09:40 Taelron: "yes.. while we know its an exploit, like my old grand pappy use to say, if the cop didnt see it, i didnt do it... if we dont see them they can keep doing it till they get caught"
* SpaceCase whispered "hehe...tell evil that a newbie aint going to think....hey i cant swich teams in metavers so maby ill go play in a scenario!.he wont know anything like that"
05:04:54 [PS]Selvarian: "nimby -> That is true for every official exploit on the list."
05:09:58 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "you could put a rank limit on the MV or something, to join, so that way newbies wont jump in and mess a planet up or anything, and they will have ample time to decide which faction they like most while playing scenerio"
05:10:14 [PS]-mac-: "definition of exploit = 'to be fixed' in the future ... :)"
05:10:17 [PS]nimby: "yes it is, it is an official exploit...but tread lightly"
05:10:35 Gideon: "@Lith, but there are too few players in the Metaverse as it is."
* SpaceCase whispered "putting a rank limit on MV is dumb...the new players wont be able to expeience is holeosme goodness!"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "Yeah, but they will ask the question in the chat room, and they will get the answer. It also will be in the FAQ"
05:10:50 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "true true"
05:11:01 [PS]nimby: "heh, I want to close down the scenario servers and force everyone into the MV"
05:11:17 Gideon: "@ Nimby, if it is to be official, then it needs to be in the RoC. Otherwise it may be hard to enforce."
05:11:25 Taelron: "fine by me, i got my last badge lol"
05:11:29 [PS]nimby: "make it official"
05:06:54 [PS]Selvarian: "Just, say "Make it so", cap'n"
05:11:45 Gideon: "@Nimby While I hate the scenarios, I think it would be bad for the business model to do that."
* SpaceCase whispered "well ok..but if there anything like me there not going to go to a faq...im an explorer......i dont read something to know what im doing"
05:12:11 [PS]nimby: "oh yeah, I didn't say I was gonna do it, just want to"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "Well, then explore. You'll be able to figure it out eventually. :O)"
05:12:29 Gideon: "@Nimby, Ahh, I see."
05:08:19 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. I'll add it to the list. Where's my secretary? DEM!!!"
* SpaceCase whispered "why dosnt nimby just do a test.....shut down scenario servers for a few days and say they are being repeared or something and force everyone into metavers so they will fall in love with it"
05:13:19 [PS]-mac-: "lol"
05:13:22 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
05:13:23 [PB]tragicx: "I would agree with Gideon, I think it would be a bad desicion to remove scenarios."
05:14:02 [PS]nimby: "I just want lots more people in the MV and without advertising the player base is building so slowely"
05:09:33 [PS]Selvarian: "Still gotta do that account purge."
05:09:39 [PS]Selvarian: "Which reminds 05:14:42 [PS]-mac-: "YES please ;)"
05:09:55 [PS]Selvarian: "Bob has emailed me a list of people with offensive names."
* [Evil]Evil Bob whispered "I'd like to bring up the building module for engs, it's capable of building every building regardless of the eng ship, so even n00bs can build dictors and def bases, the n00b servers end up full of death stars which can't be touched due to no one having ships that can survive multiple def base launches."
05:15:05 [PB]tragicx: "I think most people aren't moving to MV as quick, even with more players is just the simple fact there are few players on MV plus MV is slower paced."
05:10:22 [PS]Selvarian: "I am going to rename them to Playernnnn (where nnnn is their player ID)"
05:15:13 Gideon: "yes, the metaverse isn't being realized at it's full potential. Players won't enter the metaverse because it's so empty, and it's empty because noone will enter the metaverse."
05:11:17 [PS]Selvarian: "They may have trouble logging back in, but I believe most (if not all) are demo accounts anyway"
05:16:16 [PS]nimby: "AFK for a sec"
05:16:23 [PB]Thundarr: "why dont we take a weekend, shut all but the MV and demo scenario servers down, and have a MV party?"
05:16:51 [PB]tragicx: "That would be a sure way to get people to switch. =)"
05:16:53 dibber: "may i make a suggestion"
05:16:58 Gideon: "Is the weekend the busyest time for DarkSpace."
05:17:01 [-[A]-]|2eason: "We did that already Thudarr, during beta......it kinda flopped......"
* [Evil]Evil Bob whispered "yes, you can take the n00b eng out for a cruise and build every building in the inventory."
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "I edit out some whispers that I feel are inappropriate. Others I leave in because they add to the discussion."
05:17:14 Gideon: "@Dibber, make it as a whisper to Selvarian."
05:17:15 [-[A]-]|2eason: "hence, our server went up,:)"
05:17:28 [PB]Thundarr: "nobody went into the MV?"
05:17:39 Gideon: "Reason is right, it kinda fell on its face."
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "Go ahead"
05:18:00 Gideon: "People in scenarios like the faster pace, and arn't sure if they can get that in metaverse."
05:18:10 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Nope, people logged off instead......"
05:18:21 Gideon: "So they don't play rather than take the chance and log into the metaverse."
05:18:29 [-[A]-]|2eason: "finally got people back on once a few other servers went up...."
05:18:47 Gideon: "What is needed is something to get the player's attention focused on the metaverse."
05:18:49 [PB]Thundarr: "you get it to a lesser extent in account there is alot more open space"
05:18:49 [Evil]Evil Bob: "alot of people like the instant combat nature of the scenario servers, they can get into combat fairly quickly, that's hard to do in the MV at this time."
05:19:11 Gideon: "Like news announcements on the front page about the status of the war."
05:19:21 [PB]Thundarr: "but if people prefer fast action, in your face dog fights, then the MV is doomed to stay empty"
* [{BSS}]Futility whispered "poor documentation for the MV may have somthing to do with the poor uesage"
05:19:32 [PB]tragicx: "Here's an idea, there needs to be something different in MV that's not in scenario. Something to draw people in. Different ships, things to do. Something to draw people."
05:19:50 Smokey: "hehe the news page would be flooded with all the systems switching sides regularly :O)"
05:20:00 Gideon: "Thundarr, when we had alot of people in the metaverse in beta it was one non stop combat for about a week."
05:20:05 [PS]nimby: "we can organise a MV party"
05:20:08 [-[A]-]|2eason: "lol, this discussion on the MV has been going on since way back yonder......"
05:20:16 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "ROFL, i have a good idea, only let dreads be in MV, that'll get the battles going LOL!"
05:20:22 Gideon: "@Smokey, no I mean like a human written status of the war."
05:20:33 [PB]tragicx: "@ Lith, I think that is what it is now."
05:20:45 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I nominate Gideon to be the War Correspondent..."
05:20:51 [PB]Thundarr: "@Gideon, that "lot of people" was back when the game was free =)"
05:21:17 Taelron: "enable clans even of same faction to declare war and fight... while war is on no ff... but the missions should help add some fun to the mv"
05:21:21 Gideon: "@ Thundarr, actually we had about the same ammount or less than we have now."
05:21:38 Gideon: "There were about 80 logged in at any one time in the metaverse."
05:21:58 [PB]tragicx: "80, spread over how many servers though?"
05:21:59 Gideon: "@Taelron, yes, missions should help alot."
05:22:06 [PB]Thundarr: "we have half that"
05:22:14 Gideon: "About 4"
05:22:19 Smokey: ""from the front SOL was taking over 3 times today by the ICC and Kluth and ERI 2 time by the UGTO.. and bombing runs flattened all planet... another day in the MV" :O)"
05:22:25 Gideon: "Mostly in Sol and Sirius."
05:22:34 [-GTN-]Judas: "As far as the MV is concerned I'm one of the folks that's started to avoid it due to the problems it's had with bugs, and factions using lame tactics like Pcruise Dreads, or massive 16 defense planets next to gates. That and other stuff has just left me waiting for the 1.4 patch."
* [Evil]Evil Bob whispered "lets move on..."
* [PB]tragicx agrees with judas.
05:23:13 Smokey: "pcruise dreads in the scenerio too..."
05:23:22 [PS]nimby: "I am working to make sure that planets don't switch hands so easily, don't worry, I won't let 1.4 go out without making sure that planet capping is epic"
05:23:22 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "so is the meeting still on track? cause it seems this could best be discussed in the forums"
05:18:40 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Since we seem to be moving off-topic here...let's focus for a few more minutes and finish up"
05:23:33 [PB]Thundarr: "@Judas, that is the same problem the scenario servers have"
05:23:39 Gideon: "Right, lets get back on track."
05:23:45 [PS]nimby: "ORDER"
05:24:18 [-[A]-]|2eason: "ok, go ahead Selv......"
* dibber whispered "being a green horn, i am sure this has more to do with my stupidity than any thing else, however i would suggest that you help people choose a clan for example. i have no idea what clan to be in but i would like to be in one. when i joined the darkspace system it would have been nice to have some summaries of clans and invitations to get to know them etc."
05:20:07 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. The last thing on my list is the new site that I have been busting arse over the last 2-3 weeks."
* [Evil]Evil Bob whispered "I have a couple points I'd like to bring up about the build module and bio bombs"
05:20:36 [PS]Selvarian: "I am going to finish uploading the database templates and the pages, and then open it up for testing."
05:25:26 Gideon: "Can we view it?"
05:25:47 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "sweet!"
05:21:02 [PS]Selvarian: "Of course, it got FAR larger and more complicated than I originally intended."
05:25:56 Gideon: "Cool."
05:26:06 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "when can we start testing it... and how?"
05:21:32 [PS]Selvarian: "It will be live by Thursday morning, barring any further Chinese fire drills from my customers this week"
05:26:27 [-GTN-]Judas: "I know scenario's have the same problem, but they're much easier to deal, more balanced than the MV, and it generally happens rarely."
05:26:27 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
05:22:03 [PS]Selvarian: "I want to have it ready for the 1.4 release come HELL of HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE!!!!"
05:22:10 [PS]Selvarian: "c/of/or/"
05:27:16 [PS]nimby: ":)"
05:22:45 [PS]Selvarian: "I will post the link to it in the news as soon as it goes up."
05:27:44 Gideon: "I dunno, hell OF high blood pressure works too..."
05:28:15 Gideon: "I look foreward to seeing it."
05:23:40 [PS]Selvarian: "It's got a cheesy theme, but I am not much of an artiste, so if someone wants to donate some artwork to make it look nicer, I would appreciate it."
05:28:27 Gideon: "Any new features you want us to test in particular?"
05:23:54 [PS]Selvarian: "(once I put it up so you can see what it needs, that is)"
05:28:43 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
05:28:55 [PS]-mac-: "As long as it works, I don't care what it looks like :)"
05:24:40 [PS]Selvarian: "It consists of four main sections: Bug-Tracker, Suggestions, Staff List and Roles, and a private DB for staff tracking."
05:25:18 [PS]Selvarian: "I want everyone to break it.. so I can fix it."
05:30:09 [PB]tragicx: "Sorry for interrupting, but is this a completely new site, or just a face lift with new pages?"
05:25:30 [PS]Selvarian: "Just keep you eye on the news."
05:26:04 [PS]Selvarian: "No, it is a separate site for the moment. We need the functionality now. We will integrate it into the main site as we move forward with it, though."
* Gideon whispered "I have another breif topic. Will we have another public poll? and if so, on what?"
05:26:27 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. That is all I have. Bob, then Gideon.."
* Chromix yawns :)
05:31:30 Gideon: "Bug and Suggestion sifters will be nice."
05:32:17 [Evil]Evil Bob: "Ok, new topic, in game issues: build module and bio bombs...."
05:32:22 [PS]nimby: "OK, I need to start working my way outta here..."
05:32:34 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I've noticed that the build module is not limited by ship type..."
05:28:05 [PS]Selvarian: "Should be engy-only, I thought"
05:32:57 [Evil]Evil Bob: "you can take the n00b eng out and build all the same buildings you can with the top of the line eng ship.... "
05:33:15 [PS]nimby: "I would like to say that I am so overwhelemed and impressed by all the effort that you have put into this game..."
05:33:18 Gideon: "i see what he means."
05:33:22 Smokey: "well in 1.4 won't you be able to build without an engineer nimby?"
05:33:31 Smokey: "remote management.."
05:33:32 [Evil]Evil Bob: "so we end up with the n00b server full of death star planets (10-12 def bases) that no one can touch."
05:33:33 [PS]nimby: "congrats and my most sincere thanks"
05:34:07 Gideon: "g'night nimby."
05:29:27 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, it's our game, too, nimby. May not be on paper or nothing, but we have as much in this emotionally as you and Faustus."
05:34:17 [PS]nimby: "initial structures are eng onlt, engs will help planets build faster, but other ships can build thre the colony hub"
05:34:32 [PS]nimby: ":)"
05:34:42 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I am talking about the eng ship here, there is no rank limit to what can be built, the n00b eng can build the same things that the high ranking eng can, which is not as it's supposed to be."
05:30:03 [PS]Selvarian: "We want it to succeed as much as anyone."
05:35:09 Gideon: "@ Evil Bob. I do think that the engineer ships were better when the lower ships had lees building capacity."
05:35:25 Gideon: "It gave players a reason to want the higher engineer ships."
* [PS]nimby falls over onto his keyboard and disconnect..........
05:35:54 Gideon: "That must hurt..."
05:31:08 [PS]Selvarian: "That was interesting"
05:36:06 [Evil]Evil Bob: "right, that's my point, go into the n00b server right now and you will see n00b engs building dictors, shields, def bases, etc."
05:36:14 [-[A]-]|2eason: "I think that there needs to be another module made for the lower ranked eng ship, so that it will be fixed"
05:31:34 [PS]Selvarian: "Hmmm. That is borked."
05:36:39 Smokey: "grr crashed"
05:36:51 Gideon: "And the major problem in the scenario servers with this is that there is no reason to build planets that have a balanced budget."
05:37:21 [Evil]Evil Bob: "a seperate module would be cool. "
05:37:27 Gideon: "I agree with Evil Bob and Reason."
05:37:37 Gegil: "I saw one planet with 10 depots one, and an indestructable EAD out in front of them....."
05:37:44 [Evil]Evil Bob: "yep, that's being addressed Gideon, a simplified economy for scenario servers is the way to go. "
05:37:51 [-[A]-]|2eason: "I think the reason it is broken, is because it is the same module in all the eng ships......."
05:38:06 [Evil]Evil Bob: "yep, it is."
05:38:21 [Evil]Evil Bob: "ok, my second issue, bio bombs.... "
05:38:42 [Evil]Evil Bob: "talking with nimby, he was unaware that they no longer go through shields..."
* Smokey whispered "yeah in 1.4 if you have the building researched you can build the structure on the planet... and you don't need to have the build gadget..."
05:38:56 [Evil]Evil Bob: "apparently that got changed accidentally"
05:34:34 [PS]Selvarian: "So, ICC are immune from them?"
05:39:23 Gideon: "This was part of the updates in the Development forum. Faustus did it on purpose. One hand does not know what the other is doing."
05:39:24 [Evil]Evil Bob: "as they currently stand, bio bombs are useless when compared to the faster and stronger mirvs."
05:40:05 Gideon: "@Selvarian, their planets basically are, yes."
05:40:10 Gegil: "It makes the planet nearly impossible to bomb if they have 150% sheilds"
05:40:22 [Evil]Evil Bob: "mirvs are 3 times stonger then bios, mirvs don't raise your sig, bios do, and you can fire mirvs three times faster, basically there is no reason to use bios as they currently stand."
05:35:50 [PS]Selvarian: "ouchie. Another balance bugaboo"
05:36:23 [PS]Selvarian: "Any final comments on those two items?"
05:41:20 Gideon: "This will become a more serious problem, as defense bases will start targeting incoming projectiles separatly."
05:41:42 [Evil]Evil Bob: "they already do gideon."
05:41:43 Gegil: "if that happens the only way for a kluth to take a planet would be droping elites =/"
05:37:17 [PS]Selvarian: "Gideon, you're up.."
05:42:09 Gideon: "Elites are slated to be much rarer as well."
05:42:23 [Evil]Evil Bob: "I now have 4 mirv launchers on my kluth mandible just for killing troops on ICC planets by mass crashing shields."
05:42:46 Gideon: "Just was wondering, should we have another poll. and if so, what should it be on?"
05:42:51 Taelron: "hmm maybe only get elites if you build a Military Acadamy on the planet"
05:42:56 Gideon: "A public poll, that is."
05:38:18 [PS]Selvarian: "..on the website."
05:43:11 [Evil]Evil Bob: "came across a planet with 193 shields, it was nearly impossible to crash the shields long enough to damage anything."
05:38:29 [PS]Selvarian: ""Most hated bug"?"
05:38:33 [PS]Selvarian: ":OP"
05:43:22 Gideon: "Yes."
05:43:24 Smokey: "well i guess it was mentioned before it would need hand weapons and explosives to train your troops..."
05:44:35 Gegil: "will there be an advanced infantry unit that will attack buildings first? that might be a solution to super shielded planets.."
05:40:17 [PS]Selvarian: "Gideon, why don't you open up a thread in the PMF about the poll. We'll see what people have to suggest when we aren't about to fall over asleep, like me. :O)"
05:45:18 [Evil]Evil Bob: "mechanized units that are designed to destroy buildings..."
05:45:35 Gideon: "Same here, i am going to open that thread and then kick off here."
05:45:41 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "y21il hseafpdasidhnas "
05:40:58 [PS]Selvarian: "Any last issues before we close the meeting for this week?"
05:45:54 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "what oh, meeting still goin on? fell asleep"
05:46:03 [.Di.]Wolver: "i know most everyone knows about gaifen killing giving FF by now, but i was wondering why this was never posted officially anywhere, and i suggest that i should be offically posted by an Admin somewhere in the forums"
05:46:05 [PB]Thundarr: "can you recap everything please? ;)"
05:46:06 [-GTN-]Darq Duck: "lol lith"
05:41:19 [PS]Selvarian: "Stop, Lith. I almost understood that."
05:46:17 [-GTN-]Lith Ragond: "cruise missles, are they gonna have their own slot or what?"
05:46:38 Gegil: "Oh, how are people getting cruise missles on the newbie servers anyways??"
05:46:53 [-GTN-]SkyLander: "combat destroyer"
05:46:54 [PB]Thundarr: "@Wolver, agreed, i never knew till someone said something, it should be in the news section"
05:46:54 Gideon: "That's news to me, Wolver."
05:42:12 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, I'll recap using my cut'n'paste methodology in the Mod Central forums"
05:47:04 Taelron: "the icc bomber dest has pcruise"
05:47:08 [.Di.]Wolver: "lol....see? "
05:47:29 [PB]tragicx: "How about planetary news spamming? There should be a way to turn that off."
05:47:33 [PB]Thundarr: "i was joking selv ;)"
05:47:39 Gegil: "agree@tragicx"
05:47:56 [-GTN-]Darq Duck: "agree2tragicx"
05:47:59 [.Di.]Wolver: "Faustus said planet news will be toned down in 1.4"
05:43:12 [PS]Selvarian: "Yah, and I wasn't... go figure :O)"
05:48:04 Gegil: "when the planets spam like that, it causes a graphic glitch with the bottom line being cut in 1/2"
05:48:23 [-GTN-]SkyLander: "thast overflow"
05:48:36 [PB]tragicx: "Team conversations are difficult when you have to wait for all the planet info to scroll past."
05:48:42 [-GTN-]SkyLander: "i still think the combat dread needs to be given a boost somehow"
* [DI]NovaM votes we move on on the adgend
05:48:57 Gegil: "what model is that? the 410?"
05:44:13 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. I am going to close the meeting here. I want to thank everyone again for their time and contribution of effort. Very good meeting, again!"

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Prime Engineer
Caitian Defense Corps
Founding Member - Interstellar Mercenary Corps

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