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Bardiche
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|  Posted: 2012-09-27 15:49
Call me insane, but I prefer the current one, since I've seen the old model long enough now... and I like my ships bulky.
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Sixkiller
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Joined: May 11, 2005
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From: Netherlands
| Posted: 2012-09-27 16:33
I don't like the EAD model; but I would like to clarify that a little bid. I don't think theres much wrong with it I just dont see it fitting for the EAD. It is extremely streamlined, it looks like it is hardly fit to be used as a sort of battering ram with weapons on it. It just doesn't look that way to me. It might fit another UGTO ship better. Not sure which one tough. Or perhaps a cruiser or destroyer if that's possible.
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2012-09-27 21:59
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On 2012-09-27 15:49, Bardiche wrote:
Call me insane, but I prefer the current one, since I've seen the old model long enough now... and I like my ships bulky.
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U like fat-bottomed girls, eh?
Anyway there's gonna be three variants. The one that's in Beta now, the other one that I'm working on now in those sneaks. And a third one where I make some adjustments to the central engine port.
So u guys can decide which one to use.
But srsly, the current Beta AD makes me cringe somewhat when I look at its ass end. We shd call it the ICS JLo or ICS Kardashian.
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SpaceAdmiral
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Posts: 1005
| Posted: 2012-09-28 08:23
Any plans for more UGTO/Kluth dreads? With your 3 variants + your carrier/missile model + the 2 current release models ICC will be swimming in usable models.
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DiepLuc
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Posts: 1187
| Posted: 2012-09-28 09:08
These models are very nice. But they don't fit assualt class, I have to admit. Those curve lines belong to command class. Just like Light-of-Aurora wrote:
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I believe it's called Executor, not Harbinger. Harbinger has = = = on wings; Executor has : : : on wings. Harbinger has thin IIII IIII IIII IIII on head; Executor has bold II II II on head. File name maybe mislabeled.
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Eledore Massis [R33]
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Joined: May 26, 2002
Posts: 2694
From: tsohlacoLocalhost
| Posted: 2012-09-28 09:50
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| On 2012-09-27 14:34, Kenny_Naboo[+R] wrote:
Some sneaks. Untextured for now, while I work out the mesh.
Expect the redesigned ICC AD to look like an uprated M-400.
Big pictures, cut out
This is to be in line with the ICC's principle of using a standard hull type and then adding modules or modifying it to suit the intended role.
Also... to get rid of that fat rear end, and the weird tri-engine configuration. I still think the M-400 is a great design. This hull type can be designated the M-450 or M-500. |
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I can't really see here, but there is One thing i loved about the M400 are those armor/wings at the back of the bridge surrounding the hull. almost like it is a extra armor plate protecting the CIC and other important command stuff.
For the rest it indeeds looks like a M400 and has the ICC feeling.
You are not losing the feeling because of the different rear-end engine section. because these are just three engines placed inside a single container instead of three containers welded together. just a difference in construction, i guess this might even be faster since all three engines are the same instead of one big one and two smaller one's.
Keep it up 
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-(kha-ti the silent watcher)-
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From: the land of silent watchers
| Posted: 2012-09-28 10:11
The new EAD design feels more like a battle dread then a EAD but the design itself is very smooth and feels like a real ugto starship.
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Pantheon
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 10:44
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On 2012-09-28 09:08, chlorophyll wrote:
These models are very nice. But they don't fit assualt class, I have to admit. Those curve lines belong to command class. Just like Light-of-Aurora wrote:
I believe it's called Executor, not Harbinger. Harbinger has = = = on wings; Executor has : : : on wings. Harbinger has thin IIII IIII IIII IIII on head; Executor has bold II II II on head. File name maybe mislabeled.
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As has been mentioned MANY times. LoA misnamed those two dreadnoughts. The Harbinger is the one we have, and we don't have access to the other.
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µOmniVore
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Posts: 171
| Posted: 2012-09-28 11:02
noo don't listen to these people the new models look great there isn't a specific way a factions ship is supposed to look icc needs more curves and less boxes boxy ships are so 1990's these ships need to look like they are uprated versions of the old ships.
the new model kenny posted looks excatly like the current AD which is so old and ugly now keep the current model in beta a smaller dread that is specificaly designed for combat that looks different from the siege and combat dread.
as i have stated many times the new beta model is really great takes some getting used to but progress always is so please don't change anything force it on players like so many other changes that were forced.
the ugto EAD model is weird looking in its aft section only cause the aft fins seem so small compaired to the entire ship but the rest of the ship is great.
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2012-09-28 11:36
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On 2012-09-28 10:44, Pantheon wrote:
As has been mentioned MANY times. LoA misnamed those two dreadnoughts. The Harbinger is the one we have, and we don't have access to the other.
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Now THIS I didn't know.
So that's the Harbinger and not the Executor?
Ok anyway, that aside. Let's just all take a step back. Put it to a poll. Does the look of that dread suit a Command role more, or an EAD?
And next, the name probably won't be Harbinger or Executor. I think Jim Starluck already has some documented standards on how UGTO ships will be named.
And last. I just make the models, and perhaps some notes or suggestions on what role they may play. But ultimately I'll leave final decision on their roles and class to the devs.
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Talien
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From: Michigan
| Posted: 2012-09-28 12:41
I like the new AD model, I think it looks fine as it is, but changing the rear end to be more in line with the M-400 setup would look more fitting for an ICC ship.
I also think the UGTO model doesn't really fit the EAD, and would look better as a new Command model.
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JupiterShadow(Demon Of Death)
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 12:43
ok ive gone back over the LoA thread with the ships in question now in my point of view i think that the ship we have now is called the executioner (which i think would be best served as a Command dread) the Harbinger would better serve the EAD and as kenny dont have that one i dont suppose he could look at the pics of that ship and recreate it?
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Pantheon
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 13:27
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On 2012-09-28 12:43, JupiterShadow(Demon Of Death) wrote:
ok ive gone back over the LoA thread with the ships in question now in my point of view i think that the ship we have now is called the executioner (which i think would be best served as a Command dread) the Harbinger would better serve the EAD and as kenny dont have that one i dont suppose he could look at the pics of that ship and recreate it?
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How many more times will people ignore the previous comments in this thread?
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Steveyk
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Joined: November 25, 2008
Posts: 162
| Posted: 2012-09-28 15:35
Both look great but the tails on both are a bit odd but its maybe just because im not used to seeing them, anyway over all great work a nice fresh look for the ships they replace.
and as to the vote thing i think the ugto model would be fine as the ead unless u had something more aggresive up ur sleeve
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SpaceAdmiral
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 17:21
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On 2012-09-28 13:27, Pantheon wrote:
How many more times will people ignore the previous comments in this thread?
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In that case he intended the "Harbinger" to be the Command Dread model.
In the text he mentioned that the Command Dread had a flowing and authoritative look. The current model in beta is that model with the flowing and authoritative look as it is more humpbacked, has a smaller, protruding rear with large side wings to look like royal garmets. It also has a slightly smaller waist that fans out in the rear, again making it look longer and more delicate/ornamental.
Compare with the other dread LoA made which is more straight and cuts off the rear to make it look more fast and snappy in turning, which fits a ship in close quarters combat, even if it has larger mass.
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