On 2008-10-09 00:55, Delando wrote:
In hope of ending this discussion, i have conducted a Experiment, it cost me a extra death and 300 prestige loss, it was worth it:

Step1:
Built 12 Supply Plats at Paul, R33, with 7100engi, Time Expended: 00:11:54
I've resourced all of them, so feel free to repeat my trials.

Step2:
Spwn 1 Battle Dread into Paul orbit near Supply Plat cluster, began swap all standard armor for reflective armor. Time expended for full armor regeneration(counting from I swap in the FIRST plate: 00:00:47 That means it take at most 47 SECONDS FOR A UGTO DREAD WITH "0"ARMOR TO BECOME FULLY COMBAT WORTHY, so long as he has no significant hull damage.

Now, I don't know how much faster than the ICC shield that was, but I think we can all agree that a repair speed that bring a BD completely striped of armor to 100% armor in 47 secs is TOO fast.

This is no longer a case of unbalance, this borders on exploit.

Step3:
For the sake of taking hull damg into account, I took the BD into a battle with killa and pakhos under the name SUPSPAMMER. I got the armor as low as I could be for I was killed, something like 17%.
Next, I respwned the BD at Paul again, with 5% hull, and 18% armor, to see how long it would take a heavily damaged ugto Dread to recover to full combat readiness. And to compare it to the ICC time. Time Expended to Full armor regen: 00:00:36
Time Expended to Full hull regen: 00:02:55

INTERPRATATION: this means an ugto BD who was just destroyed can return the same ship into battle with 100% hull and 100% armor in just under 3minutes.
Can ICC still claim the title as excelling at defense? Can shield technology still be called Superior under these conditions?

You have SEEN the results, I leave the judgenment to you.

If u wish to test the proof first handed, the supp plat cluster is still at the planet of Paul in R33.

[ This Message was edited by: SUPSPAMER on 2008-10-09 01:07 ]

On 2008-10-09 05:46, BackSlash *Jack* wrote:
We will not be introducing an shield repair into the game.

Your shields recharge a damn sight faster than 3 minutes. Not to mention that whilst 12 supply platforms is all good and well - the UGTO will have a lot of ships, with a lot of armour - one supply per ship is still going to take forever.

There's also the bonus that once we leave the platforms 250 gu range, our armour stops - if it's dangeriously low, we can't risk it to help our friends, whereas you can. Your shields have the ability to recharge independant of any repair - in and out of combat. No matter where you are, what you're doing, as long as you have energy, your shields are going up.

Armour does not.

There are differences in armour and shields - there are pros and cons of both. Weight up yours - you're obviously not a shield person. If you don't like shields, and they're not for you, then try a different faction.

On 2008-10-09 12:11, Pakhos wrote:
well,well,well....


This is a bit confused. Personaly Dev and Delando both have point. Dev says icc can rotate shield and can charge indepentedly and delando says recovery time is too slow while ugto makes "fast come backs".

I agree with both side on those points. But strategicly this can be avoid. I believe Delando wants to have some back feature of 483. Which is longer battle time for icc . Why? because they used to stay and kick ass.In this case a fleet you have to choise a target, and you must assure the target you choised wont come back in the same ship. Kill him and kill your second target, then get out to charge your shields.Then come back to kill your third target. Because we do this as kluth .We fire on 1 then cloak. We wait to repair our armor and we hit second target . If we are 6 people , 3 hit target 1 and other 3 hits target 2 , and makiing sure they are killed. So we can engage on main target without having back fire from enemy.

On 2008-10-09 12:17, Daimen wrote:
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i rarely see that actualy work hehe. you with your paper ships.

On 2008-10-09 02:46, Evey wrote:
Delando, my friend,
Please, get with the program and realize they don't care what you are saying. Save your breath. This is an insiders game. If they wanted your input, they'd invite you to be a developer or mod. They don't want your opinion or feedback.