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Iwancoppa
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Joined: November 15, 2008
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Posted: 2013-11-09 21:09   
Quote:
On 2013-11-06 17:24, Ent wrote:
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On 2013-11-06 15:24, Novacat wrote:

Lack of Interdictor - As I have pointed out many months ago, it seems like most UGTO vs ICC fights end up being campfests, its very difficult for either side to attack the other because of planetary interdictors and the lack of portable interdictors.




Well at least they're not logging anymore at the sight of one.



Unfortunately, they're just logging at the sight of camps.
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Fluttershy
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From: Fluttershy
Posted: 2013-11-11 16:59   
The number for plasma cannons is still wrong.
The damage shown is a 3rd of what it should be, those things are brutal.
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Orkan [OO-XII]
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From: A Point Perfectly Computed Yet Never Repeating
Posted: 2013-11-11 18:50   
Three planets in the MI Xi Bootis System are of capturable type, not flagged as anything yet they are impossible to capture or land infantry on. Something is wrong. If memory serves me correctly they are Entreides, Darian and Gunther but it could be Zephyr instead. I do not recall now which of those is a Gas Giant.
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AdmiralChaos
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Joined: October 08, 2008
Posts: 274
Posted: 2013-11-11 19:19   
Quote:
On 2013-11-11 18:50, Orkan [OO-XI] wrote:
Three planets in the MI Xi Bootis System are of capturable type, not flagged as anything yet they are impossible to capture or land infantry on. Something is wrong. If memory serves me correctly they are Entreides, Darian and Gunther but it could be Zephyr instead. I do not recall now which of those is a Gas Giant.




they arn't planets, they are 'moons'
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Orkan [OO-XII]
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From: A Point Perfectly Computed Yet Never Repeating
Posted: 2013-11-11 20:07   
The point is that they are not capturable when it seems they should be. This post is to let the dev team know just in case this was overlooked.

If we're gonna go that way 'Admiral' - 'Chief Marshal' they're not 'Moons' at all but rather 'satellites' as the 'Moon' is actually the English language name for the 'planet' which is a satellite of the 'planet' known to us in English as 'Earth'. A common misnomer just as the word 'suns' is also used by some in error to mean other 'stars' as observed in other galaxies.
Astronomical classifications specify certain sizes which define bodies in space as either 'planets' or 'planetoids'. Below that size they become known as 'asteroids' and above that they can either be 'gas giants' which are still classified and termed as 'planets' which do not have the mass or contain enough matter to be classed as the next group up. Any other larger mass of matter containing enough flammable elements to act as a fuel (such as Hydrogen) is eventually pulled together by gravity and generally reaches an incendiary point whereby it erupts into a cosmic fireball known to us as a 'Star'. Depending of course on what an individual chooses to believe...
In one reality however all we are really seeing is a graphical representation displayed on a monitor screen, sometimes referred to as a VDU (Visual Display Unit), connected to a computer running just one particular Operating System of many, which is the result of data scripted in a particular computer code known as 'C++' which gives us the illusion of observing 'planets' and 'stars' and 'piloting' a 'ship' on a two dimensional plane in a three dimensional virtual graphical environment...
I could go deeper into quantum physics as well as touch upon theories of perception but do I really need to go on?

You see, this is an example of just what can happen when 'keepin' it real goes wrong...' : P



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Iwancoppa
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Joined: November 15, 2008
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Posted: 2013-11-11 23:29   
Quote:
On 2013-11-11 16:59, Fluttershy wrote:
The number for plasma cannons is still wrong.
The damage shown is a 3rd of what it should be, those things are brutal.




That's a function of things with splash damage magically not showing direct hit damage.

ie torpedos and plasma cannons.
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Fatal Mack Bolan(WildCards_58th)*COM*
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Fatal Squadron


Joined: June 12, 2010
Posts: 184
From: home planet: Exathra
Posted: 2013-11-12 04:46   
still waiting on flight control when on F2 screen........and weapons fire/speed control when on F3 screen ...........
also would like to see something similar to the fleet carrier model used for the command carrier, would like to see mining beam added to command carrier...just 1........
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AdmiralChaos
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Joined: October 08, 2008
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Posted: 2013-11-12 06:25   
Quote:
On 2013-11-11 20:07, Orkan [OO-XI] wrote:
The point is that they are not capturable when it seems they should be. This post is to let the dev team know just in case this was overlooked.

If we're gonna go that way 'Admiral' - 'Chief Marshal' they're not 'Moons' at all but rather 'satellites' as the 'Moon' is actually the English language name for the 'planet' which is a satellite of the 'planet' known to us in English as 'Earth'. A common misnomer just as the word 'suns' is also used by some in error to mean other 'stars' as observed in other galaxies.
Astronomical classifications specify certain sizes which define bodies in space as either 'planets' or 'planetoids'. Below that size they become known as 'asteroids' and above that they can either be 'gas giants' which are still classified and termed as 'planets' which do not have the mass or contain enough matter to be classed as the next group up. Any other larger mass of matter containing enough flammable elements to act as a fuel (such as Hydrogen) is eventually pulled together by gravity and generally reaches an incendiary point whereby it erupts into a cosmic fireball known to us as a 'Star'. Depending of course on what an individual chooses to believe...
In one reality however all we are really seeing is a graphical representation displayed on a monitor screen, sometimes referred to as a VDU (Visual Display Unit), connected to a computer running just one particular Operating System of many, which is the result of data scripted in a particular computer code known as 'C++' which gives us the illusion of observing 'planets' and 'stars' and 'piloting' a 'ship' on a two dimensional plane in a three dimensional virtual graphical environment...
I could go deeper into quantum physics as well as touch upon theories of perception but do I really need to go on?

You see, this is an example of just what can happen when 'keepin' it real goes wrong...' : P



[ This Message was edited by: Orkan [OO-XI] on 2013-11-11 20:12 ]






I actually just meant if you click on them they say 'moon' instead of planets. Kinda like with some of the planets in sol.
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Orkan [OO-XII]
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From: A Point Perfectly Computed Yet Never Repeating
Posted: 2013-11-12 06:45   
Oh. My bad.

Ok so uncappable 'planets' defined by the game as 'moons'. Well I don't mind how they are termed in game, that's up to the Devs, but they should either be capturable or be labled 'uncapturable'.
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Orkan [OO-XII]
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From: A Point Perfectly Computed Yet Never Repeating
Posted: 2013-11-13 05:24   
I have also noticed that certain cannons from gun platforms can go through planets as can PD lasers which can hit and defend against projectiles and other contacts even on the other side of the planet.
Beams going through planets is not only aesthetically unattractive but also creates a game imbalance as missiles are stopped by planets but beams are not. Is this just a graphical glitch or is actual damage being caused by weapons fire which manages to go through a planet?
Sabots and missles are stopped by planets.
Beams and certain cannons I have seen go through.

What's the lowdown on this?
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Pantheon
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Joined: May 29, 2001
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Posted: 2013-11-13 12:21   
Quote:
On 2013-11-13 05:24, Orkan [OO-XI] wrote:
I have also noticed that certain cannons from gun platforms can go through planets as can PD lasers which can hit and defend against projectiles and other contacts even on the other side of the planet.
Beams going through planets is not only aesthetically unattractive but also creates a game imbalance as missiles are stopped by planets but beams are not. Is this just a graphical glitch or is actual damage being caused by weapons fire which manages to go through a planet?
Sabots and missles are stopped by planets.
Beams and certain cannons I have seen go through.

What's the lowdown on this?




Graphical anomoly. They will collide with collidable objects.

Quote:
On 2013-11-12 06:45, Orkan [OO-XI] wrote:
Oh. My bad.

Ok so uncappable 'planets' defined by the game as 'moons'. Well I don't mind how they are termed in game, that's up to the Devs, but they should either be capturable or be labled 'uncapturable'.




They're not planets, so they wouldn't be capturable...
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Bardiche
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Joined: November 16, 2006
Posts: 1247
Posted: 2013-11-13 12:41   
Note that the graphics problem also shows with beams attacking ships: If you are zapping an enemy with your HCLs and an ally interposes itself in your beams... You see it hitting the enemy but your ally will be taking the damage.

Don't cross beams, people.
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Chewy Squirrel
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Joined: January 27, 2003
Posts: 304
From: NYC
Posted: 2013-11-13 23:38   
I doubt this is possible but I've never seen it officially shot down so here goes: Is there any chance of wormholes ever working between servers(i.e. brown gates?)
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Orkan [OO-XII]
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Joined: April 22, 2010
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From: A Point Perfectly Computed Yet Never Repeating
Posted: 2013-11-13 23:55   
Quote:
On 2013-11-13 23:38, Chewy Squirrel wrote:
I doubt this is possible but I've never seen it officially shot down so here goes: Is there any chance of wormholes ever working between servers(i.e. brown gates?)



I also doubt the possibility of this but am just as interested to know if this is viable as server transfer points are effective choke points to movement where no enemy can enter the system without first appearing uncloaked and un-ecm'ed at this point of entry. Sometimes that is a good thing but sometimes not. Whether this was done on purpose so as to render it impossible to enter a new server without being detected I don't know but the idea of wormholing into a new system with the actual aim of a surprise attack is standard sci-fi fare and would be a very nice part of the game.

I'm guessing here but practically speaking it would effectively be allowing players to create their own server transfer gate rather than system transfer gates which are presently what wormholes are. Perhaps there could be a new gadget available on the jump cruiser or one type of station alone which functions as present wormhole except that instead of spawning a system transfer gate it spawns a server transfer gate in roughly the same manner. I am unaware of the coding this would require and have not yet weighed out the balance issues that this would create... I know that i just like this idea. : )
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Borgie
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Joined: August 15, 2005
Posts: 2256
From: close by
Posted: 2013-11-14 00:58   
is it possable to make the cloak animation match the cloak in timer, right now on dreds its 12 seconds, and after you press v for cloak, your still visable while your sig is dropping but you don't go transparent( on my end) utnill you reach 12 seconds.
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