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-xTc- ExisT
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From: Red Lobster
Posted: 2011-07-29 21:00   
Quote:

On 2011-07-29 13:35, Gejaheline wrote:
Coolers, if memory serves, actually decreases the amount of time in between individual shots in a volley, not the time between volleys.






How do beams apply to this? So condensors and coolers are useless on beams?
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Posted: 2011-07-29 21:42   
Quote:

On 2011-07-29 21:00, xTc-JSRSJ wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-07-29 13:35, Gejaheline wrote:
Coolers, if memory serves, actually decreases the amount of time in between individual shots in a volley, not the time between volleys.






How do beams apply to this? So condensors and coolers are useless on beams?



I would think that coolers would make the beam deal the damage faster, while condensors will make it have less recharge indirectly by decreasing energy cost.
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Posted: 2011-07-29 22:02   
Makes sense now... descriptions just didn't make sense in what they're supposed to do.
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Borgie
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Joined: August 15, 2005
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From: close by
Posted: 2011-07-29 22:30   
Quote:

On 2011-07-29 17:51, Talien wrote:
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On 2011-07-29 14:41, YIIMM wrote:

From the Dev Log:
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Pulse Wave now only affects the enemy's projectiles and has a 65% chance of destroying each projectile it hits.



May well need some tweaking but what you've said and my own experiences it seems to be working "correctly".




We know this. But when you consistently have a scenario where several missiles/fighters are tracking you and just 1 or 2, if any, of them are destroyed by Pulse Shield then it suggests something may be wrong.



could this also stem from the same bug where missles arn't being targeted by PD?
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Posted: 2011-07-29 23:45   
most likely.

Seems sometimes missiles dont register. A shame their damage isnt voided as well.

I suspect we will se a influx of missile ships on the field.

All i can say is good luck shooting that crap at me. I suggest the rest of ICC get on the same page.

ECM is your friend until this is fixed.
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Posted: 2011-07-30 00:06   
Quote:

On 2011-07-29 23:45, *XO*Defiance wrote:
most likely.

Seems sometimes missiles dont register. A shame their damage isnt voided as well.

I suspect we will se a influx of missile ships on the field.

All i can say is good luck shooting that crap at me. I suggest the rest of ICC get on the same page.

ECM is your friend until this is fixed.




ecm only helps hide missles
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From: CSS CheezyBagels
Posted: 2011-07-30 03:35   
hides you from missiles as well.
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From: Dres-Kona
Posted: 2011-07-30 03:51   
Quote:

On 2011-07-30 00:06, Borgie wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-07-29 23:45, *XO*Defiance wrote:
most likely.

Seems sometimes missiles dont register. A shame their damage isnt voided as well.

I suspect we will se a influx of missile ships on the field.

All i can say is good luck shooting that crap at me. I suggest the rest of ICC get on the same page.

ECM is your friend until this is fixed.




ecm only helps hide missles



You mean the missles that we already can't target to PD a lot of the time?
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Posted: 2011-07-30 10:20   
Quote:

On 2011-07-30 03:35, darksmaster923 (3IC) wrote:
hides you from missiles as well.




true, but you would need alot of ecm to cover a dred, and stations i don't think you can make them untargertable.
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Posted: 2011-07-31 17:07   
Beta battles

#1

Me Combat Dessy
Soulless Gunboat dessy

Started engagement under full combat speed at 500gu apart aft to aft. Rolled into full combat (medium range).
Engagement ended with me dead and Soulless over 80% hull left as read on my screen.


#2

Me Combat dread
Soulless Battle dread

Started engagement 800gu apart fore to fore. Rolled into full combat (close range).
Engagement ended with me dead and Soulless over 45%hull left as read on my screen.

#3

Me Gunboat dessy
Enterprise Combat dessy

Started engagement at 1500gu. Rolled into full combat (medium range).
Engagement ended with Enterprise dead and me with over 80%hull 35% armor as read on my screen

#4

Me Gunboat dessy
Enterprise Combat dessy

Started engagement at 1300gu. Rolled into full combat (close range)
Battle ended with Ent dead. I was at over 60% hull as read on my screen.

#5

Me Battle Cruiser
Enterprise Heavy Cruiser

Battle started at 1400gu. Rolled into full combat (medium close range)
Battle ended with Ent dead. I was at 20% hull as read on my screen.
Gave enterprise my Aft at close range and still won.

Conclusion. I flew these UGTO ships like a horses ass and still came out on top by a huge margin. (didnt dodge much, sloppy point jumps, and poor positioning)

[ This Message was edited by: *XO*Defiance on 2011-08-01 01:09 ]


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Posted: 2011-07-31 23:55   
More People Should Get In There And Test.


If this goes live and everyone starts crying becouse they could not be arsed to go test for themselfs...


Maby me and Enterprise just suck at ICC??? Please. Go test for yourselfs.



670 beta test

#6

Me Gunboat Dessy
Squish Combat Dessy


Engagement began at 1000gu. Rolled into full combat (medium range)
Battle ended in Squish's death. I had 71% hull left as read on my screen.
I was using ablative armor.

#7

Me Battle Cruiser
Squish Heavy Cruiser

Engagement began at 1000gu. Rolled into full combat (medium, Close range)
Battle ended in Squish's death. I had 52% hull left.
No special conditions.

[ This Message was edited by: *XO*Defiance on 2011-08-01 01:10 ]

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Posted: 2011-08-01 03:18   
What ever happen to the suggestion about disabling Y chat?


I’m growing very close to the end of my chain with this game.

When I got here, it was obviously a dated game.. Old.

I overlooked it and tried it anyway because Opposition insisted that the players here were unlike any i have ever come across.

So I tried it and he was right. DS was a tight nit community that could play together and not be asses.

Sadly I have watched the quality of players, both in skill and attitude decline at a steady rate since I arrived in 2009.

I’m really close to just making it to CM and calling it quits.

In a last ditch effort, I am starting to put all known UGTO and K’luth player on ignore.

I hope this measure will slow the decay of the DS experience for me.

To all the would be Y trolls. I have never won any argument over Y. Nor has anyone else for that matter. It only serves to disrupt game play and makes all of us look like arses to the would be new players of DS. I realize ive not been the best about this myself as of late. After I got banned from forums, I adopted a no Y no reason policy. I didn’t talk in Y for any reason, nor did I respond to Y for any reason. I am going to go back to this.

As for all the people running around saying their faction was nurfed to hell. YOU are the single greatest NURF to your faction. Nay-sayers who run around spewing poisons of discontent do far more damage to faction moral than any nurf or enemy could. You want to kill your faction? No better way to do it than to complain about it 24/7(im ICC. I have seen it happen time and time again and ive learned my lesson). Lie to yourself enough times and it becomes the truth.

On UGTO. I wanted to believe there is a problem with UGTO in current version. However I have found a lack of supporting evidence for this. My findings have shown that the UGTO Vs ICC problem is a psychological one. UGTO give up before the fight has even started. One cannot possibly hope to win a battle he has already lost in his mind. This scenario is no deferent.

The only evidence I have found that supports arguments of UGTO problems are;

A) Depot fix.
B) Stations re-purposed

Depot fix has a large number of UGTO in shock about their inability to tank damage like they could before. Even a large number of pre-depot spam vets seem to have forgotten what the game was like before the exploitive repair system. This has given rise to an idea among UGTO that they should be the defensive faction. A consensus the devs seem to share based on my recent tests in 670 beta. Those UGTO who do not believe they should be the defensive faction have come into an identity crisis. They no longer know WHAT their factional advantage is supposed to be. General definition of the UGTO faction and its traits have been lost in the chaos that followed 670 release.

Stations rework has affected all factions the same. By such, this argument is mute and void.

Dreadnaughts and stations crumple fast under fire for UGTO. A fact shared by ICC and Kluth. ICC and KLuth adapted tactics to compensate. UGTO continues on like their still in v660 beating their head against the wall complaining that It hurts.



[ This Message was edited by: *XO*Defiance on 2011-08-01 04:03 ]
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Joined: January 11, 2010
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From: LobsterTown
Posted: 2011-08-01 04:21   
Quote:

On 2011-08-01 03:18, *XO*Defiance wrote:
Sadly I have watched the quality of players, both in skill and attitude decline at a steady rate since I arrived in 2009.

I’m really close to just making it to CM and calling it quits.

In a last ditch effort, I am starting to put all known UGTO and K’luth player on ignore.

I hope this measure will slow the decay of the DS experience for me.

To all the would be Y trolls. I have never won any argument over Y. Nor has anyone else for that matter. It only serves to disrupt game play and makes all of us look like arses to the would be new players of DS. I realize ive not been the best about this myself as of late. After I got banned from forums, I adopted a no Y no reason policy. I didn’t talk in Y for any reason, nor did I respond to Y for any reason. I am going to go back to this.




Dude, I don't want to argue with you about this, but I suggest you take a long look in the mirror before you tell us about DS's "decay".


Weren't you the one who started Y-chat complaining to us 2 days back when we repeatedly pointjumped you to blow you out of space? Then started trolling to us about "skills" and etc?

Practice what you preach. Or shut up about it entirely.



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Posted: 2011-08-01 04:28   
Quote:

On 2011-08-01 03:18, *XO*Defiance wrote:
I realize ive not been the best about this myself as of late. After I got banned from forums, I adopted a no Y no reason policy. I didn’t talk in Y for any reason, nor did I respond to Y for any reason. I am going to go back to this.





How bout reading the entire post next time
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From: LobsterTown
Posted: 2011-08-01 05:05   
Quote:

On 2011-08-01 04:28, *XO*Defiance wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-08-01 03:18, *XO*Defiance wrote:
I realize ive not been the best about this myself as of late. After I got banned from forums, I adopted a no Y no reason policy. I didn’t talk in Y for any reason, nor did I respond to Y for any reason. I am going to go back to this.





How bout reading the entire post next time




I did read that part. Regardless of it, and perhaps even more so because of it in fact, you're really not in a good position to tell us about "skill and attitude".

Take it anyway you want LOL. I'm done with this matter.




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