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Zero28
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Joined: August 25, 2006
Posts: 591
|  Posted: 2012-09-27 16:48
dunno man i jsut saw Two face duking it out with you, although your an first, an AI BD shredded his back too hulling him down very badly
This whole 1 v 1 is pointlesss
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Two Face
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Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 145
| Posted: 2012-09-27 17:08
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On 2012-09-27 16:48, Zero28 wrote:
dunno man i jsut saw Two face duking it out with you, although your an first, an AI BD shredded his back too hulling him down very badly
This whole 1 v 1 is pointlesss
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I was afk at the shop, came back and had a swarm of enemy AI around me and i was at 80 hull, i checked the chat log to see how long the AI had been shooting me and it was 3 minutes, so of course my hull was going to be down, especially since i wasnt even there to defend myself. 
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Steveyk
Chief Marshal
Non Omnis Moriar
Joined: November 25, 2008
Posts: 162
| Posted: 2012-09-27 17:09
at that point he had dc'd and the ai were beating him up, ok 1 on 1 isnt a great test i agree but 1 on 1 the ad beats the ead hands down the best i did was get him to 80 hull and then i did a bit more as i blew up. So would u guys liek to try test say 3 on 3? i think that would be a fair test?
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CM7
Midshipman
Faster than Light
Joined: October 15, 2009
Posts: 1812
| Posted: 2012-09-27 17:27
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On 2012-09-27 17:08, Two Face wrote:
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On 2012-09-27 16:48, Zero28 wrote:
dunno man i jsut saw Two face duking it out with you, although your an first, an AI BD shredded his back too hulling him down very badly
This whole 1 v 1 is pointlesss
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I was afk at the shop, came back and had a swarm of enemy AI around me and i was at 80 hull, i checked the chat log to see how long the AI had been shooting me and it was 3 minutes, so of course my hull was going to be down, especially since i wasnt even there to defend myself.
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wait... How the hell does chatlog let you know how long you where getting shot at?
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Two Face
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Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 145
| Posted: 2012-09-27 17:41
Steve sent me a PM saying something along the lines of "oops i brought the ai with me"
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[*RSM*]Steveyk @176270 Sent "ffs ai followed anyway
I know that doesnt show a time but the next person to speak ingame does so it was actually a minimum of 3 minutes maybe longer
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GiggaShadow[+L.F.]
Marshal
Pitch Black
Joined: March 27, 2005
Posts: 176
From: Behind You!
| Posted: 2012-09-27 18:35
Hmm, I dont know about all this. Ad this and AD that but me and a fellow clan mate both in mandis waisted 2 AD's on a 1 v 2, and then ganked the the guy when he came back in a LS so, my point is it is more about tactics than the ship I believe.
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GunsOfHonor
Fleet Admiral
Joined: July 31, 2011
Posts: 191
| Posted: 2012-09-27 20:23
Why is this even a topic sigh 
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Null Pointer
Grand Admiral
Templar Knights
Joined: April 10, 2010
Posts: 148
| Posted: 2012-09-27 20:37
Judge the enhancements, not the ship.
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Two Face
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Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 145
| Posted: 2012-09-27 20:59
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On 2012-09-27 20:23, Curiosity wrote:
Why is this even a topic sigh
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"Most" of you who have said this kind of statement havn't even tried to produce test yourself, just going off what you have been told or heard of and lots of biased comments from the ICC players or ICC / Kluth alts.
Ive got a video coming soon that shows an AD absolutely obliterate an EAD without rotating its sheilds once, AD had 100% hull 32% armour and 2% shield after the fight but i already guess that isnt enough prove for some of you!
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Kenny_Naboo
Marshal
Pitch Black
Joined: January 11, 2010
Posts: 3823
From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2012-09-27 23:03
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On 2012-09-27 20:59, Two Face wrote:
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On 2012-09-27 20:23, Curiosity wrote:
Why is this even a topic sigh
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"Most" of you who have said this kind of statement havn't even tried to produce test yourself, just going off what you have been told or heard of and lots of biased comments from the ICC players or ICC / Kluth alts.
Ive got a video coming soon that shows an AD absolutely obliterate an EAD without rotating its sheilds once, AD had 100% hull 32% armour and 2% shield after the fight but i already guess that isnt enough prove for some of you!
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I'm interested to see if this is a REAL fight, or just some standstill slugfest.
Obviously, a standstill slugfest will not count, because no one is going do that. A real fight means that the ships will be manuevering to get an advantage over each other.
Waiting for your vid.
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Zero28
Grand Admiral
Joined: August 25, 2006
Posts: 591
| Posted: 2012-09-27 23:08
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On 2012-09-27 20:59, Two Face wrote:
"Most" of you who have said this kind of statement havn't even tried to produce test yourself, just going off what you have been told or heard of and lots of biased comments from the ICC players or ICC / Kluth alts.
Ive got a video coming soon that shows an AD absolutely obliterate an EAD without rotating its sheilds once, AD had 100% hull 32% armour and 2% shield after the fight but i already guess that isnt enough prove for some of you!
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Some of us actually did test and we just dont end up in the same conclusion, You lack of detailing your so called tests is not making things any better
I tested AD and EAD stock, My EAD died with no armor left but full rear ark, while the AD came out at 3% hull no armor or sheilds (i lost to hang of the EAD too)
There were both stock, in a 1 v 1, none of the ships were moving but did rotates there arks there were nothign else at all
So that leave the only possible problem, "If there is one" would be with the def enh not the AD itself. haven't had tiem tot est this out, but from what i see in MV, AD with Def enh do get chewed up anyway, you know since its not a 1 v1 place and all
ICC and luth are both biased now. Dev nerf us for his sake
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Two Face
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Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 145
| Posted: 2012-09-27 23:23
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On 2012-09-27 23:08, Zero28 wrote:
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On 2012-09-27 20:59, Two Face wrote:
"Most" of you who have said this kind of statement havn't even tried to produce test yourself, just going off what you have been told or heard of and lots of biased comments from the ICC players or ICC / Kluth alts.
Ive got a video coming soon that shows an AD absolutely obliterate an EAD without rotating its sheilds once, AD had 100% hull 32% armour and 2% shield after the fight but i already guess that isnt enough prove for some of you!
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Some of us actually did test and we just dont end up in the same conclusion, You lack of detailing your so called tests is not making things any better
I tested AD and EAD stock, My EAD died with no armor left but full rear ark, while the AD came out at 3% hull no armor or sheilds (i lost to hang of the EAD too)
There were both stock, in a 1 v 1, none of the ships were moving but did rotates there arks there were nothign else at all
So that leave the only possible problem, "If there is one" would be with the def enh not the AD itself. haven't had tiem tot est this out, but from what i see in MV, AD with Def enh do get chewed up anyway, you know since its not a 1 v1 place and all
ICC and luth are both biased now. Dev nerf us for his sake
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Please do your test with me from now on as i am actually here most of the time, i have experiance and not to be rude your tests arn't near close enough to mine and i have been testing this one problem for near three days straight, with sleep inbetween of course.
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Two Face
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Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 145
| Posted: 2012-09-27 23:31
As the video shows i didnt rotate sheilds once, we moved around, sometimes i was behind him, sometimes he was behind me.. (and he started the fight in what is ment to be the best starting postion for the EAD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZlH4tY6t2U&feature=youtu.be
AD had 100% hull 32% armour and 2% shield after the fight
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Brutality
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Joined: May 25, 2009
Posts: 659
From: Alaska, USA
| Posted: 2012-09-28 00:24
Just had another battle with xTc in beta with fully modded up AD and EAD. AD won with 4% hull, but he was taken out by my death explosion. I used +52% def upgrades and alabative armor to counter the sabots and ions. I used PFE to help with energy as well and left everything else stock. xTc used the full 52% def ehs as well with sabots and PFE. 
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Kenny_Naboo
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Joined: January 11, 2010
Posts: 3823
From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2012-09-28 00:36
Can you guys test them WITHOUT enh?
Ships were balanced without enh factored in.
If a ship gets OP'ed because of enh, then it leaves us with several questions like:
- Shd enh really be that effective?
- Shd enh have drawbacks?
- Shd enh be nerfed?
- Or shd this be left as is, because enh are bought and paid for and the users should get the advantage?
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