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Zero28
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|  Posted: 2012-09-28 14:19
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On 2012-09-28 11:18, Talien wrote:
If all his "tests" were like that, it fully explains why he was getting such unbelievable results, because I can say almost assuredly that EAD probably did as much damage to itself as the AD did to it.
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i loled and i gave up on the whole subject. I can't be bothered with some bull like this
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Flux Capacitor
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Joined: July 30, 2010
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 15:15
fair test is 100gu range, 1 vs 1, stock dreadnought (not enhanced).
Then u can test OP mods like different shields and armors etc.
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Steveyk
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 15:26
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On 2012-09-28 15:15, -domedi- wrote:
fair test is 100gu range, 1 vs 1, stock dreadnought (not enhanced).
Then u can test OP mods like different shields and armors etc.
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i will try that too
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SpaceAdmiral
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Joined: May 05, 2010
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 17:27
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On 2012-09-28 09:22, chlorophyll wrote:
The point is, why reserve shield energy is better than use it at the beginning?
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Technically using it in the beginning is better, but don't overflow to 100% as you might lose some hp. Using it in the beginning allows the shields to start their regen, which is quite high.
I have no idea why you lost.
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Null Pointer
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 20:17
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On 2012-09-27 23:31, Two Face wrote:
As the video shows i didnt rotate sheilds once, we moved around, sometimes i was behind him, sometimes he was behind me.. (and he started the fight in what is ment to be the best starting postion for the EAD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZlH4tY6t2U&feature=youtu.be
AD had 100% hull 32% armour and 2% shield after the fight
[ This Message was edited by: Two Face on 2012-09-27 23:40 ]
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One thing I noticed is, you swapped 2 auxiliary generators for two extra shields, not to mention the likely defense enhancements on it.
So, if you want to nerf a ship, at least make them fight stock. And not modded.
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Zero28
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 20:31
i had a fight stock with brutallity as i psot above
both ships completly stock. firign at 300gu
the AD won with 5-10% hull left, and the EAD died. STock the ships are equally balanced, and its jsut a matter of Player at whos better at managing its ship
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Army Of Darkness
Joined: March 20, 2010
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From: Red Lobster
| Posted: 2012-09-28 20:50
I told myself i wouldnt post in this thread anymore
Oh wait here i am
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Two Face
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 21:34
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SpaceAdmiral
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| Posted: 2012-09-28 23:14
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On 2012-09-28 21:34, Two Face wrote:
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I'm guessing they are too much like sustained fire gunboats rather than all out battering rams.
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Zero28
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| Posted: 2012-09-29 15:53
Siphon can sustain a hell lot logner with the ELf torps
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Pantheon
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 08:44
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On 2012-09-27 23:31, Two Face wrote:
As the video shows i didnt rotate sheilds once, we moved around, sometimes i was behind him, sometimes he was behind me.. (and he started the fight in what is ment to be the best starting postion for the EAD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZlH4tY6t2U&feature=youtu.be
AD had 100% hull 32% armour and 2% shield after the fight
[ This Message was edited by: Pantheon on 2012-09-30 08:47 ]
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Invalid test. Whilst you did start with the EAD having an advantage due to the proximity of your ships, Sixkiller immediately wiped out his entire advantage and then some by spamming torps at such close range, he was doing more damage to himself than you were to him.
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Two Face
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 09:35
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On 2012-09-30 08:44, Pantheon wrote:
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On 2012-09-27 23:31, Two Face wrote:
As the video shows i didnt rotate sheilds once, we moved around, sometimes i was behind him, sometimes he was behind me.. (and he started the fight in what is ment to be the best starting postion for the EAD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZlH4tY6t2U&feature=youtu.be
AD had 100% hull 32% armour and 2% shield after the fight
[ This Message was edited by: Pantheon on 2012-09-30 08:47 ]
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Invalid test. Whilst you did start with the EAD having an advantage due to the proximity of your ships, Sixkiller immediately wiped out his entire advantage and then some by spamming torps at such close range, he was doing more damage to himself than you were to him.
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There is no mutual prestige gain, fights are to the death, or you could just ban duels because that is basically what they are as stated in section
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DiepLuc
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 12:00
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As the video shows i didnt rotate sheilds once, we moved around, sometimes i was behind him, sometimes he was behind me.. (and he started the fight in what is ment to be the best starting postion for the EAD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZlH4tY6t2U
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UGTO torp splash range is 30gu - as huge as tier III missle's. Basically, 6killer killed himself for approaching too close to the target.
Will you plan to reduce UGTO torp splash, Patheon? Seems like the huge splash contributes to FF more than compensates the average speed & damage of UGTO torp.
With my experience, almost visual graphics of splash projectile do not demonstate the exact diameter of the splash, including ship's explosion. The bombing missle is the only exception.
The new EAD can replace 2 front torp for 1 aux gen and 1 SCL.
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Sixkiller
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 12:27
30 gu is nothing.. i probably hit myself twice in the entire fight..
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Pantheon
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 12:33
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On 2012-09-30 12:27, Sixkiller wrote:
30 gu is nothing.. i probably hit myself twice in the entire fight..
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I can see you destroying your own front armour.
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