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Talien
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Templar Knights
Joined: May 11, 2010
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From: Michigan
|  Posted: 2012-09-30 12:47
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On 2012-09-30 12:27, Sixkiller wrote:
30 gu is nothing.. i probably hit myself twice in the entire fight..
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Your armor ring was overlapping his for most of that fight. You most definitely caused almost as much damage to yourself as he did to you.
Don't think so? Go into beta with an EAD and sit on an AD like you did in that video while spamming torps+QST and see what happens to your armor, hull, and FF count.
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CM7
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Joined: October 15, 2009
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 12:57
One tactic i used teach pilots is to lock armor rings with EADs; Assault dread always, and other dreads if making range is not an option.
Thanks for the video evidence to support the lesson.
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Two Face
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Joined: November 30, 2009
Posts: 145
| Posted: 2012-09-30 14:40
The only torp splash back i can see is at the very end when he has no chance anyway, I i would have done better myself if i changed my setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqNVbhJ8whM
I also messed up badly, I changed my torps to number 2 then couldnt change my beams to number 3 ect so i was constantly low on energy which gave steve alot of extra time. (has that happened to anyone eles?)
[ This Message was edited by: Two Face on 2012-09-30 14:45 ]
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CM7
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 15:41
rings are locked together the whole time
torps and qst have splash.
are you trying to say he never fired torps or qst til the end?
1. i see thats not true
2. no wonder he lost (again)
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Two Face
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Posts: 145
| Posted: 2012-09-30 16:10
Alright King CM7, the rings were not locked together the whole time, ive just been ingame and tested splash damage on the EAD, at 79gu there was no splash damage from either QST or torps, also there was a supply repairing him, my point all along is that the AD can tank far far too much as all UGTO are now aware since couple patches ago.
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ken2228
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*Renegade Space Marines*
Joined: March 07, 2004
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From: space
| Posted: 2012-09-30 16:37
might i add that in that last test steve has a full adv def enh setup.
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Talien
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Templar Knights
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From: Michigan
| Posted: 2012-09-30 17:02
The range you see when you target something is the distance from the center of your ship to the center of your target. Weapons do not impact on the center of your target, they impact on the armor/shield rings and when your armor/shield rings are in close proximity to the armor/shield rings of your target you will FF yourself.
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Steveyk
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Non Omnis Moriar
Joined: November 25, 2008
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 17:04
As he said though we just did a quick blast at the same range and there was no damge or ff to the firing ship.
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Brutality
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Joined: May 25, 2009
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From: Alaska, USA
| Posted: 2012-09-30 17:36
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On 2012-09-30 16:37, ken2228 wrote:
might i add that in that last test steve has a full adv def enh setup.
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That's always gonna lose vs the AD...... funny how we ICC had to come up with an effective counter to our own ship and it effectively shreds a def ehs AD. Def ehs are not the answer. Try focusing on the EAD's strengths instead of playing into the hand of the AD each time.... this thread clearly isn't going anywhere so I'm done here.
[ This Message was edited by: Fatal Brutality *COM* on 2012-09-30 17:37 ]
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Chewy Squirrel
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Joined: January 27, 2003
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From: NYC
| Posted: 2012-09-30 17:44
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On 2012-09-30 16:37, ken2228 wrote:
might i add that in that last test steve has a full adv def enh setup.
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Well there's your problem
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Two Face
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Joined: November 30, 2009
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 17:52
LOL Steves setup isnt the only setup we have tested, stop assuming and show me your proof.
[ This Message was edited by: Two Face on 2012-09-30 17:52 ]
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CM7
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 18:06
cant we get some devs testing?
With the limited moding we have, i can see many combo's of weapons, armor and enhancements that will give unfair advantages to one ship or another.
The fact that you found the AD's (BEST) defense setup, and try to counter it with the EAD's worst setup dont prove crap by me.
or, i could take a AD, fit it all with pulse lasors and sabots, advanced beam coolers, and pit it against a EAD with reflective armor and advanced defense upgrades and whine the EAD is op.
[ This Message was edited by: CM7 on 2012-09-30 18:09 ]
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Two Face
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 18:08
I also find it funny that less then a week ago everyone was saying an EAD will never lose to an AD, unless of course that EAD was being flown by Mr Blobby, now you ICC / ICC Kluth alts are looking for every little tiny bit of evidence to shut this down which ok sure thats fair enough, your only fighting for your ships future but the fact is the AD is OP!
Please start showing your own proof.
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Abbot
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Joined: December 23, 2007
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 18:13
It all seems quite clear to everyone appart from icc and the ones that have an alt with icc that the AD is most certainly tanked up to the max.
I do understand however why you feel the need to defend your OP AD, i mean if i had an OP ship then i would defend any bad mouthing of it so well done for protecting it like the holy grail.
I cant remember since day 1 of playing this game there ever being a bigger dicussion about 2 ships. The way i see it the AD is OP or the EAD is seriously underpowered and something needs to change
[ This Message was edited by: *Abbot* on 2012-09-30 18:15 ]
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Two Face
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| Posted: 2012-09-30 18:44
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On 2012-09-30 18:06, CM7 wrote:
or, i could take a AD, fit it all with pulse lasors and sabots, advanced beam coolers, and pit it against a EAD with reflective armor and advanced defense upgrades and whine the EAD is op.
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Reflective armour vs the AD turned out worst for the EAD, and sabots are more deadly then the fusion torps, so... please go do that.
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